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The moral argument, for atheism!
Jehanne Away
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RE: The moral argument, for atheism!
June 29, 2018 at 10:23 pm
(June 29, 2018 at 10:17 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:
(June 29, 2018 at 10:11 pm)Jehanne Wrote: No, not at all.

If there is truly an omnipotent, eternal God who is the source and grounding of all moral truths, then it is reasonable to expect that such a God would reveal such truths to Us, His Creation, and indeed, such a Being would be morally obligated to do so.

Is that an unequivocal moral claim. You seem to be refuting yourself.  And ignoring your premise.  
Also there is still the question of based on what?

It's a self-evident claim, kind of like 2+2 = 4.
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The moral argument, for atheism! - by Jehanne - June 29, 2018 at 4:37 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by The Valkyrie - June 29, 2018 at 4:44 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by LadyForCamus - June 29, 2018 at 5:01 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by MysticKnight - June 29, 2018 at 5:03 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Angrboda - June 29, 2018 at 5:08 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by LadyForCamus - June 29, 2018 at 5:13 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by MysticKnight - June 29, 2018 at 5:45 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by LadyForCamus - June 29, 2018 at 9:50 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by RoadRunner79 - June 29, 2018 at 4:48 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by The Valkyrie - June 29, 2018 at 5:06 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by RoadRunner79 - June 29, 2018 at 5:12 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Minimalist - July 1, 2018 at 3:38 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by CapnAwesome - July 3, 2018 at 3:58 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Jehanne - July 3, 2018 at 5:58 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Mister Agenda - June 29, 2018 at 4:50 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by RoadRunner79 - June 29, 2018 at 4:54 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Mister Agenda - June 29, 2018 at 4:58 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by RoadRunner79 - June 29, 2018 at 5:02 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Ravenshire - June 29, 2018 at 5:54 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Kitan Etos - June 29, 2018 at 5:56 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Ravenshire - June 29, 2018 at 6:01 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by MysticKnight - June 29, 2018 at 4:52 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Angrboda - June 29, 2018 at 4:59 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Magilla - June 29, 2018 at 11:06 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by MysticKnight - June 29, 2018 at 5:01 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by LadyForCamus - June 29, 2018 at 5:07 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by MysticKnight - June 29, 2018 at 5:27 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by LadyForCamus - June 29, 2018 at 5:33 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Jackie - June 29, 2018 at 5:11 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by SteveII - June 29, 2018 at 5:41 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Kitan Etos - June 29, 2018 at 5:43 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by SteveII - June 29, 2018 at 5:59 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by MysticKnight - June 29, 2018 at 6:04 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Mr.wizard - June 29, 2018 at 6:38 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Jehanne - June 29, 2018 at 6:39 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Mr.wizard - June 29, 2018 at 6:45 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Jehanne - June 29, 2018 at 6:48 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Kitan Etos - June 29, 2018 at 6:47 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Mr.wizard - June 29, 2018 at 6:52 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Kitan Etos - June 29, 2018 at 6:54 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Mr.wizard - June 29, 2018 at 6:58 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Kitan Etos - June 29, 2018 at 7:00 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Mr.wizard - June 29, 2018 at 7:02 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Kitan Etos - June 29, 2018 at 7:07 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Mr.wizard - June 29, 2018 at 7:19 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Kitan Etos - June 29, 2018 at 7:19 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Jehanne - June 29, 2018 at 7:00 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Jehanne - June 29, 2018 at 6:59 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Angrboda - June 29, 2018 at 7:24 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Mr.wizard - June 29, 2018 at 7:33 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Jehanne - June 29, 2018 at 7:51 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Mr.wizard - June 29, 2018 at 7:55 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Jehanne - June 29, 2018 at 8:08 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by RoadRunner79 - June 29, 2018 at 9:30 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Jehanne - June 29, 2018 at 9:41 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by RoadRunner79 - June 29, 2018 at 10:06 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Jehanne - June 29, 2018 at 10:11 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by RoadRunner79 - June 29, 2018 at 10:17 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Jehanne - June 29, 2018 at 10:23 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Mr.wizard - June 29, 2018 at 10:31 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Jehanne - June 29, 2018 at 10:35 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Mr.wizard - June 29, 2018 at 10:44 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Jehanne - June 29, 2018 at 10:46 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Mr.wizard - June 29, 2018 at 10:50 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Jehanne - June 29, 2018 at 10:56 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Mr.wizard - June 29, 2018 at 11:01 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Jehanne - June 29, 2018 at 11:03 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Mr.wizard - June 29, 2018 at 11:14 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Jehanne - June 30, 2018 at 8:17 am
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Mr.wizard - June 30, 2018 at 8:54 am
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Jehanne - June 30, 2018 at 9:45 am
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Mr.wizard - June 30, 2018 at 11:30 am
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Angrboda - June 29, 2018 at 8:03 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Mr.wizard - June 29, 2018 at 8:31 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Kitan Etos - June 29, 2018 at 8:45 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Angrboda - June 29, 2018 at 8:56 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Mr.wizard - June 29, 2018 at 9:12 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by brewer - June 29, 2018 at 6:58 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Kitan Etos - June 29, 2018 at 7:56 pm
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RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by MysticKnight - June 30, 2018 at 12:14 am
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by LadyForCamus - June 30, 2018 at 8:05 am
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by LadyForCamus - July 1, 2018 at 9:16 am
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by MysticKnight - July 1, 2018 at 9:37 am
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Jackie - July 1, 2018 at 9:45 am
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by LadyForCamus - July 1, 2018 at 10:03 am
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by MysticKnight - July 1, 2018 at 11:28 am
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by LadyForCamus - July 1, 2018 at 11:43 am
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Angrboda - July 1, 2018 at 12:40 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by LadyForCamus - July 1, 2018 at 11:27 am
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by MysticKnight - July 1, 2018 at 2:19 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Angrboda - July 1, 2018 at 3:36 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by LadyForCamus - July 1, 2018 at 9:45 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by MysticKnight - July 2, 2018 at 1:26 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by LadyForCamus - July 2, 2018 at 1:42 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Angrboda - July 3, 2018 at 2:39 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by MysticKnight - July 1, 2018 at 3:41 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Angrboda - July 1, 2018 at 3:54 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by MysticKnight - July 1, 2018 at 5:07 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Angrboda - July 1, 2018 at 5:36 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by MysticKnight - July 1, 2018 at 6:59 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by bennyboy - July 1, 2018 at 7:33 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by MysticKnight - July 1, 2018 at 7:36 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Angrboda - July 1, 2018 at 7:58 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Angrboda - July 1, 2018 at 7:29 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by MysticKnight - July 1, 2018 at 7:31 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by MysticKnight - July 3, 2018 at 2:42 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Angrboda - July 3, 2018 at 2:49 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by MysticKnight - July 3, 2018 at 2:58 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by SaStrike - July 3, 2018 at 3:30 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Angrboda - July 3, 2018 at 3:35 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by MysticKnight - July 3, 2018 at 4:56 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by sdelsolray - July 4, 2018 at 10:11 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by CapnAwesome - July 3, 2018 at 3:06 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by robvalue - July 4, 2018 at 4:25 am
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by MysticKnight - July 4, 2018 at 11:27 am
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by LadyForCamus - July 4, 2018 at 11:42 am
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by MysticKnight - July 4, 2018 at 12:07 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by LadyForCamus - July 4, 2018 at 12:20 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by bennyboy - July 5, 2018 at 7:19 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by MysticKnight - July 18, 2018 at 8:33 am
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by Crossless2.0 - July 18, 2018 at 10:33 am
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by robvalue - July 18, 2018 at 11:53 pm
RE: The moral argument, for atheism! - by bennyboy - July 21, 2018 at 9:47 am

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