(July 30, 2018 at 9:37 am)Brian37 Wrote:For sure, sometime during the '50's we had a marginal tax rate of %90 or something. When Occaasio Cortez suggests we do this again, she gets strawmanned. They act like they want to take %90 of all everyone makes. The way a marginal tax rate works is they take some percentage of everything beyond certain amounts.(July 30, 2018 at 9:33 am)The Industrial Atheist Wrote: Yeah it's a misnomer. We're kind of messed up in the US. A lot of people here don't even know the difference between Socialism and Communism.
What you're not getting is that Bernie himself is actually really a Social Democrat. I'm not sure you've heard much of what he has to say on the real relevant issues on the topic.
He has made it very easy for the right to strawman him. It was a bad move to call himself a Democratic Socialist.
Much of the DSA are actually Social Democrats. I don't think any country is really Socialist if you really examine things.
I will gladly support politicians like Bernie and Occasion Cortez, because they are right on the issues.
Very few in the US are actually post-Capitalist.
The word "social" has been vilified for decades as a result of the "Red Scare" because of the cold war with the Soviet Union.
If you look at post WW2 tax codes and the amount of investment between 46 and 1980 you had far more worker unions, higher taxes, cheaper education and an lower gap between the top and bottom.
Like if you had $100,000 and it were for sake of argument %20 for $60,000 and %23 for $90,000 they take %20 of everything past $60,000 and then %23 of what's past $90,000. It's not an absolute number.
People who want to keep us so far right of Europe, and pretty far right of where we were 60-70 years ago can't win with rational arguments. They have to strawman.
