Can progressives learn anything from Republicans?

[CapnAwesome]

I suppose it would on the surface..but some part of the explanation for why the GOP has turned into a bunch of creepy fuckers is that they are beholden to the seat capturing scheme.  The same would be true of democrats using the same scheme.

Let's put it into context, with just one part of the scheme. Telling dumdums what they want to hear. Obama told everyone they could keep their doctors. How'd that work out? Is there some great idea somewhere doing well by the application of the republican model?

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Or hey..hey, maybe the dems should suppress votes?  I;m sure that voter suppression could be the springboard to countless great things.

The Democratic's surpress votes. The model and methods they use is different. I've had this conversation on atheist forums a few times, and it's always the same response, either that it's not as bad (which seems iffy anyway) or that because the methods are different that somehow it doesn't count. Also odd that people think Hillary was willing to surpress the Bernie vote but somehow took the high road against Trump, which makes no sense.

I don't feel like going through the research again just for the same lazy reply but I urge you to look into it. I'll dig it up again if people are willing to admit Democratics surpress votes when they see the evidence right in front of them.

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They keep winning because of stupid voters.  There are a few who hang around here when goose-stepping practice is over for the day!

I think one never brought up reason that Democrats lose, even though many of their issues are winning issues that most voters agree with, is their base is full of insulting people like Min who make normal undecided voters not want to associate with that party. Look at the group of hard core ideologues here on Atheist Forums. They call everyone who doesn't agree with them (not just the opposition) Nazis and whatever.

Lately I've even been accused of being a Trump supporter on here (Lolwat?) just because I refused to say that Trump supporters were like the Jim Jones cult. (Which is totally insane, if you know anything about the Jim Jones cult.) Rather than defend the idea or admit that it's an exaggeration and a rush to just say the most over the top thing possible when I started pointing out what the Jim Jones cult was actually like it became a matter of just responding with insults.

Hence the problem. It's like with some Democrats you have to either support every single thing and if you don't then they don't want you even if you support them on the important issues (I'm pro-choice, pro-peace, pro-universal health care, pro-marijuana, I mean, what do you want?) but I think that calling Trump Hitler or Jim Jones is historically ignorant. To even point that out, and you are cast out and made to feel unwelcome.

Hillary Clinton said that the basket of deplorable comment was her biggest political mistake of the election. This is where she said that less than half of Trump supporters were racists or whatever. But the hardcore democratic base here on Atheist forums (or on my facebook page, or in real life) quadruples down on that statement all the time. Now nobody ever wants to blame the base of a party, but the base of the party that I'm exposed to on a daily basis seems driven to make the party small and ideologically pure. If you aren't behind 100%, including some fairly crazy things, then you are a Trump supporter and therefore a Nazi or just plain stupid, or whatever. I mean, from outside of that bubble, it's easy to see why that's a losing strategy.