(August 6, 2018 at 10:42 pm)Kyro Wrote: Hello folks,
my name is Kyro and I am new to this site. I joined because in truth, I am agnostic but this thing that I have read about has given me questions. I want to know if people on this site who refer to themselves as "atheists" would believe that this story contributes to the possibility of an eternal hell. I have attached the most important parts:
A patient was dying, kept having a flag eeg, coming to, blacking out, coming to and said everytime he was "out" he saw hell. Then Rawlings, a medical doctor told him to pray and say he believed in Jesus, suddenly the guy's eeg went flat again, he saw heaven. He also became an evagalist. Does this prove hell?
This is what the article states:
Rawlings told the story of his patient who collapsed during a stress test, and “before we could stop the machine, he dropped dead.”
"Rawlings told the story of his patient who collapsed during a stress test, and “before we could stop the machine, he dropped dead.”
Well, apparently not completely dead, because in the patient’s own words,
“When I came to, Dr. Rawlings was giving me CPR, and he asked me what was the matter, because I was looking so scared. I told him that I had been to hell and I need help! He said to me, ‘keep your hell to yourself, I’m a doctor and I’m trying to save your life, you need a minister for that.’ … And I would fade out every so often, so then he would focus CPR again and bring me back…Whenever I would come back to my body, I kept asking, “Please help me, please help me, I don’t want to go back to hell.” Soon a nurse named Pam said, “He needs help, do something!” At that time, Dr. Rawlings told me to repeat this short prayer. “I believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Jesus, save my soul. Keep me alive. If I die, please keep me out of hell!”
The experience of the patient, Charles McKaig, then became pleasant, and he reported seeing his deceased mother and stepmother and being surrounded and comforted by the Holy Spirit. Upon awakening, he was an immediate evangelical Christian.
In Rawlings words, “After this was all over, I realized what really happened. It was a double conversion. Not only had this make-believe prayer converted this atheist … it had also converted this atheist doctor that was working on him”
Now, in my words, I just cannot imagine how someone who keeps "dying" and "coming back" so many times could have a brain capable of creating such a vivid hellish experience, then when he prays to Christ he sees heaven. Does this not prove hell?
Many people who claim they saw hell in their NDE later recanted and claimed they saw heaven. I think the best thing for you to do is research the history of hell. Even within the xtian faith, it didn't exist, then existed, and is now being modified by the current RCC. Keep an open mind and research it. It's all just bullshit, but I heartily encourage you to do the homework yourself. It's the only way you will learn an answer that satisfies you. Note that I don't say that you will find truth, because there isn't any to be had. The answer is what you find to satisfy your own reality. My reality laughs out loud at the entire concept of hell. Your reality may differ.
If you get to thinking you’re a person of some influence, try ordering somebody else’s dog around.
