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Hello and question about hell
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RE: Hello and question about hell
(August 6, 2018 at 11:34 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:
(August 6, 2018 at 11:26 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: It's proof enough to him.

Truth is a personal fact that cannot always be demonstrated.

Plenty of people that experience NDE have no question that their experience was real.

How many people do you know that claim their dreams are real?

That’s just it, though.

Many theists claim to have had “personal experiences” and want the rest of us to accept that as proof.

Personal experiences are only truly “proof” to those who “experienced” them.

Once while working A&E I had a patient brought in who was adamant he was being chased by a small man with big teeth and red skin.

That was proof to him.  The fact that he was higher than a kite at the time didn’t matter.  Should I have believed him just because he was so certain and wanted me to believe?

Every single example people have submitted had to do with drugs, this isn't even remotely the same thing.

There are cases of NDE where the brain wasn't functional; A non-functional brain does not hallucinate.

People usually don't maintain that a drug induced hallucination was a real experience, the exception being N,N-Dimethyltryptamine (a natural substance found in plants, animals, and the human body) in which people feel their experience was real, in fact DMT tends to have a similar life changing effect as NDE's
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Hello and question about hell - by Kyro - August 6, 2018 at 10:42 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by vulcanlogician - August 6, 2018 at 10:45 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Angrboda - August 6, 2018 at 10:46 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Minimalist - August 6, 2018 at 10:52 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Paraselene - August 6, 2018 at 10:55 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by The Valkyrie - August 6, 2018 at 11:01 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Huggy Bear - August 6, 2018 at 11:02 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by vulcanlogician - August 6, 2018 at 11:08 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Huggy Bear - August 6, 2018 at 11:26 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Angrboda - August 6, 2018 at 11:27 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by vorlon13 - August 6, 2018 at 11:31 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by The Valkyrie - August 6, 2018 at 11:34 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Huggy Bear - August 7, 2018 at 1:29 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by brewer - August 7, 2018 at 1:42 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Huggy Bear - August 7, 2018 at 1:49 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by brewer - August 7, 2018 at 4:31 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Jehanne - August 7, 2018 at 4:47 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Huggy Bear - August 7, 2018 at 7:02 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Jehanne - August 8, 2018 at 9:48 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Graufreud - August 8, 2018 at 10:19 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Mister Agenda - August 9, 2018 at 9:01 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Whateverist - August 9, 2018 at 10:00 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Huggy Bear - August 9, 2018 at 10:34 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Mister Agenda - August 9, 2018 at 4:56 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Huggy Bear - August 9, 2018 at 5:40 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Mister Agenda - August 10, 2018 at 3:00 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Cyberman - August 10, 2018 at 10:16 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by KevinM1 - August 11, 2018 at 2:08 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by vulcanlogician - August 7, 2018 at 2:50 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Huggy Bear - August 7, 2018 at 11:31 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by vulcanlogician - August 10, 2018 at 5:07 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by KevinM1 - August 10, 2018 at 5:43 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Angrboda - August 7, 2018 at 8:17 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by ignoramus - August 7, 2018 at 3:41 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 7, 2018 at 5:00 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Mister Agenda - August 7, 2018 at 9:23 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by The Valkyrie - August 6, 2018 at 11:09 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by LadyForCamus - August 6, 2018 at 11:23 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Paraselene - August 6, 2018 at 11:05 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Jackie - August 6, 2018 at 11:12 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Whateverist - August 6, 2018 at 11:17 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by LastPoet - August 7, 2018 at 8:28 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by brewer - August 7, 2018 at 10:02 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by vorlon13 - August 6, 2018 at 11:17 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Fireball - August 6, 2018 at 11:19 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Graufreud - August 6, 2018 at 11:21 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by JairCrawford - August 7, 2018 at 1:22 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Minimalist - August 6, 2018 at 11:30 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Minimalist - August 7, 2018 at 1:33 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by JairCrawford - August 7, 2018 at 1:41 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Minimalist - August 7, 2018 at 2:01 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Graufreud - August 7, 2018 at 4:14 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Ravenshire - August 8, 2018 at 12:41 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Fake Messiah - August 7, 2018 at 5:18 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Angrboda - August 7, 2018 at 8:05 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Crossless2.0 - August 7, 2018 at 1:36 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2018 at 2:15 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Huggy Bear - August 7, 2018 at 2:45 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by robvalue - August 7, 2018 at 2:19 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2018 at 2:52 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Minimalist - August 7, 2018 at 11:49 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Paraselene - August 8, 2018 at 10:22 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Jehanne - August 8, 2018 at 10:34 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Angrboda - August 8, 2018 at 11:26 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Jehanne - August 8, 2018 at 12:16 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by LastPoet - August 8, 2018 at 12:56 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Whateverist - August 8, 2018 at 1:04 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Minimalist - August 8, 2018 at 1:17 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Jehanne - August 8, 2018 at 2:29 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by KevinM1 - August 8, 2018 at 2:48 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by The Valkyrie - August 8, 2018 at 2:53 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Angrboda - August 8, 2018 at 2:56 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Minimalist - August 8, 2018 at 2:41 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by robvalue - August 8, 2018 at 3:44 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Jehanne - August 8, 2018 at 8:38 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by The Valkyrie - August 8, 2018 at 5:54 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Mr.Obvious - August 8, 2018 at 7:45 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by robvalue - August 9, 2018 at 10:30 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Angrboda - August 9, 2018 at 10:36 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Angrboda - August 9, 2018 at 5:46 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by LastPoet - August 9, 2018 at 5:47 pm

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