RE: If you're pro-life, how far do you take that?
August 8, 2018 at 2:38 am
(This post was last modified: August 8, 2018 at 3:21 am by robvalue.)
(August 7, 2018 at 5:01 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:(August 7, 2018 at 12:58 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Yes to restraint. She might hurt herself and/or the baby. In any scenario where someone might hurt themselves or another, we should stop them.
So yes, restrain, but the protocol for dealing with such situation should also require care. Mental health care and counseling, as well as any help she needs during the pregnancy.
As to the last part, I believe I addressed that in detail on my first post here.
Are you stating that any woman that wants an abortion is mentally ill?
It's more like mental health care will be required as a result of this restraining.
Of course, if such a thing was to become law, women who wanted abortions would be scared into complete silence about it. They'd have to try and secretly do the abortion themselves before anyone found out, or seek someone who would do it, that wasn't likely to turn them in.
I'm not sure how you'd handle a woman who declared she won't have an abortion after all. Is she released again? Does a doctor have to declare her, "In a fit mental state to be trusted not to go and have an abortion now"?
As an aside, the thought experiment about saving a child versus saving 1,000 potentials clearly shows how morality is not objective. There's no way to compare these apples and oranges in a way that doesn't involve some sort of personal (or group) valuation of their respective values. Even pro-life supporters who think objective morality comes from God and potentials "are people" would abandon all this in a real situation, apparently.
(August 7, 2018 at 3:39 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(August 7, 2018 at 3:17 pm)robvalue Wrote: Okay, so two for restraint now. I have to say I'm surprised, I didn't think anyone would admit to going that far. I find it more than a little scary, but I respect the honesty.
Would you restrain a mother that said she was going to kill her 1 year old baby? Why is that scary?
Yes I would, as this would indicate that the person is dangerous and mentally unhinged. I don't consider a woman who is pregnant and doesn't want to be pregnant anymore to be either of those things, and equating them is what I find scary, along with the kind of society that would ensue.
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