RE: This is Islam. Malcom X
August 11, 2018 at 11:42 am
(This post was last modified: August 11, 2018 at 11:45 am by Brian37.)
(August 11, 2018 at 10:59 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: The most realistic, and most logical thing I have ever heard
Just to know, that what you see on the media about Islam today is not actually Islam.
This is Islam.
No wonder Malcom was killed.
Um Atlass, I think you do a great job fighting the religiously justified violence and sexism coming out of that part of the world.
But just like Malala and Malcolm they still derive their claims of moral justification from the same holy book monsters like Bin Laden and ISIS.
As far as Malcolm himself, I take his entire life into account. His crime as a youth was acting out in desperation because of economic disparity and abuse from bigoted whites. He then went to prison and "found Islam" and stopped committing crimes in the same way a Christian in America finds Jesus and cleans up their act.
He also got dose of reality that his boss was imperfect. The positive message I get from his life, was at the end, when he finally realized that we were the same species.
But he made the same mistake people of all religions worldwide do. The empathetic religious left, whom value compassion fail to realize that there are others of different sub sects of the same umbrella label whom use the same holy writings to justify harm to others.
Just like Martin Luther King Jr, as much of a hero to humanity he was, there were others who used the same bible to justify murdering him.
I do understand Malcolm and why he fought back though. I just don't agree with any theist of any religion as to where they thing our species morality is coming from. I have consistently said that our species morality is not being magically handed down to us from above, nor is it in any holy writing, but has always been in us, in our genes. Our ability to be cruel or compassionate, to lean to violence or non violence, is not magic, it is in the individual.
Too me though, and I have had this debate with my Redneck friend from Oklahoma, the argument over tactics. He's more of a Martin Luther King Jr atheist and I am more of a Malcolm X atheist. I think Malcolm was severely misunderstood on his context of tactics, and even the host in your clip missed the point. I do love that he said basically to whites, "instead of making excuses to allow others to avoid responsibility, own up to your transactions."
Nor do I think white people back then accepted that Malcolm was not advocating unprovoked violence, but mere self defense.
Let me put it too you this way. I think BOTH Martin Luther King Jr, if had been around during the Civil War would have stood against the South. I also think if they had had been forced to serve in WW2 they both would have fought the Nazis.