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We must de-stigmatize eugenics
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RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics
(August 15, 2018 at 7:53 pm)Alexmahone Wrote: 1) Would you prefer to marry a good-looking man or woman?

2) Would you abort if you knew your child would have Down's syndrome?

If you answered "Yes" to any of these questions, you already support eugenics.


Lol no. Eugenics is systematic and organized, and its application is mandated by the state with the explicit goal of "making the human race better"... Whatever that means. Choosing a partner is not even close to eugenics, as you only see their body and not their caryotype or genome. See that beefy jock over there? Absolute unit. He may be shredded and very, very attractive, but oops, he's carrying a Robertsonian translocation of chromosomes 14 and 21 that results in him having a very high chance of generating Down children. Bet you didn't see that one coming.

Now let's say for the sake of argument that you do get together with Mr. Beefcake over there and try to have a child with him. You get pregnant and find out that your son will have Down syndrome, and that your husband has that condition. In the end, what happens next is up to you to decide. If you don't have enough time or money to guarantee your Down child a decent life, you can choose to have an abortion. And I think it's easy to see how that's different from state mandated eugenics.

(August 15, 2018 at 7:53 pm)Alexmahone Wrote: No one doubts that it is immoral to involuntarily sterilize individuals let alone entire races.

*Inhales*

Boi

(August 15, 2018 at 7:53 pm)Alexmahone Wrote: But all parents want healthy children and in 15 years, we will even have genetic tests for mental illnesses. It would be immoral not to abort if you knew your fetus had all the genes for schizophrenia. 

Nah. Mental illness has a genetic component, but it isn't necessary nor sufficient to its development. You aren't born schizophrenic just like you aren't born - I dunno - a fascist, or a flat earther. Mental illnesses are not genetic syndromes. Google "pubmed", click on the first link that appears and then type "mental illness hereditability" in the search bar.
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We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Alexmahone - August 15, 2018 at 7:53 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by The Grand Nudger - August 15, 2018 at 7:55 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Alexmahone - August 15, 2018 at 8:05 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by vulcanlogician - August 15, 2018 at 9:13 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Anomalocaris - August 15, 2018 at 11:23 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Joods - August 16, 2018 at 12:03 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by The Grand Nudger - August 15, 2018 at 8:08 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by brewer - August 15, 2018 at 8:25 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by The Grand Nudger - August 15, 2018 at 8:32 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by The Valkyrie - August 15, 2018 at 8:32 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Chad32 - August 15, 2018 at 8:40 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Alexmahone - August 15, 2018 at 8:50 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Mister Agenda - August 16, 2018 at 10:20 am
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Amarok - August 15, 2018 at 8:41 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Amarok - August 15, 2018 at 8:53 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by AFTT47 - August 15, 2018 at 10:50 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by The Grand Nudger - August 15, 2018 at 10:56 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Fireball - August 15, 2018 at 11:14 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by The Grand Nudger - August 15, 2018 at 11:18 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by vorlon13 - August 15, 2018 at 11:21 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Anomalocaris - August 15, 2018 at 11:45 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by The Grand Nudger - August 15, 2018 at 11:33 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by vorlon13 - August 16, 2018 at 9:19 am
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Anomalocaris - August 16, 2018 at 10:16 am
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Rev. Rye - August 16, 2018 at 12:11 am
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Joods - August 16, 2018 at 12:28 am
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Lucanus - August 16, 2018 at 4:09 am
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 16, 2018 at 4:28 am
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Little lunch - August 16, 2018 at 6:09 am
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by I_am_not_mafia - August 16, 2018 at 6:22 am
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Anomalocaris - August 16, 2018 at 10:23 am
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Fireball - August 16, 2018 at 10:34 am
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by vorlon13 - August 16, 2018 at 10:36 am
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Fireball - August 16, 2018 at 3:15 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Anomalocaris - August 16, 2018 at 3:19 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Fireball - August 16, 2018 at 4:46 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by FatAndFaithless - August 16, 2018 at 12:13 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Silver - August 16, 2018 at 12:16 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by The Valkyrie - August 16, 2018 at 3:23 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by vorlon13 - August 16, 2018 at 3:17 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Alexmahone - August 16, 2018 at 5:27 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Anomalocaris - August 16, 2018 at 10:12 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Alexmahone - August 16, 2018 at 10:16 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Fireball - August 16, 2018 at 10:35 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Little lunch - August 17, 2018 at 6:31 am
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by I_am_not_mafia - August 17, 2018 at 8:38 am
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Lucanus - August 17, 2018 at 11:15 am
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Joods - August 16, 2018 at 6:32 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Aegon - August 16, 2018 at 6:34 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Lucanus - August 16, 2018 at 6:44 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Joods - August 16, 2018 at 9:52 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2018 at 10:16 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2018 at 10:34 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Lucanus - August 17, 2018 at 7:52 am
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by FatAndFaithless - August 17, 2018 at 7:58 am
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2018 at 8:04 am
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Joods - August 17, 2018 at 10:55 am
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Shell B - August 17, 2018 at 1:43 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Anomalocaris - August 17, 2018 at 1:48 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Joods - August 17, 2018 at 5:29 pm
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2018 at 11:06 am
RE: We must de-stigmatize eugenics - by Joods - August 17, 2018 at 11:11 am

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