RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
August 18, 2018 at 12:05 am
(This post was last modified: August 18, 2018 at 12:08 am by bennyboy.)
(August 17, 2018 at 11:21 am)Khemikal Wrote: I'm not saying you need euphemisms, Benny..I'm pointing out that you've employed one, either wittingly or unwittingly. That you have made a euphemism for your noted discomfort the definition of an ideology...but that this euphemism does not accurately describe that ideology. Further, that the employment of this euphemism is, in fact...a fully accurate expression of the very thing you've employed it against.My employment of this so-called euphemism is. . . a fully accurate expression of the PC left? *brain explodes*
Quote:Take a step back and see how this thread panned out. For many, many pages you derided people who were telling you true things about a person who employed this euphemism in a manner similar to the way you do. A person who's academic credentials, though irrelevant, and whose compatriotism in that limited area... emboldened you in your wrong headed certitude....caused you to sink your own personal credibility and credulity into a doomed argument.I'm not particularly emboldened by Peterson. You've discussed almost every issue under the sun with me. Would you really characterize me as lacking in boldness when express or arguing my opinions? Do you really think I need the opinions of others in order to have the courage to make myself heard? I would be quite surprised if you really felt so.
Quote:You are doing this same thing with "the pc left". In the process you are repeatedly falling into stereotypes of people you would not associate or identify yourself with.I don't think so. Identity politics refers to demographic identity, not so much philosophical stances on things. Identity politics means that the STATE OF BEING white or black or gay or whatever is sufficient in order to draw conclusions, make arguments, or agree or disagree with positions based on the perceived state of the demographic as an entity.
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And let me say that I'm 100% sure, crystal fucking clear, that the right-wing nutjobs are full of the same kind of thing, and that the actual practice of it has far graver consequence. I mean, the N-word itself is a pretty explicit imposition of a demographic identity without regard to the personal traits of a given individual, and I would say implies an immediate threat just in being spoken.
That being said, it is with the fart-sniffing left that I've had the most exposure, and it is my frustrations with them in particular that lead me to loathe identity politics.