Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, Round 2

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

So - hypothetically - if this same baker were to refuse to craft a cake for a black wedding, claiming that he interprets the Bible in such a way as to believe that black people are subhuman and anathema to God - you would support him on this being a free speech issue?

Boru

I don’t think that anyone is saying that anyone else is “sub-human” in this case (nor am I).

And I think that we should be very slow to have the state dictating what is conscionable for a person. I also think as (I have stated before) that one would have a difficult case making this argument on the grounds of the history of the Christian faith and the Bible. It may have been tried at times, but it has no foundation holding it up.

It’s also, not about discriminating against the person.  As you seem to try to make it to be.

You miss my point.  If a man may excuse his bigotry against the LGBT community on religious grounds, what is to stop him from excusing his bigotry against anyone on religious grounds?

Boru

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The shop owner is an idiot who obviously doesn't have much business sense. He should have just made the cake. Neither the woman nor the cake was infringing on his right to practice his religious beliefs. Neither the customer nor the cake were preventing him from praying, attending the church of his choice, talking with a member of clergy, teaching others about his religion, worshipping his god, or receiving communion. It was simply a cake that someone wanted made and this nutjob is clearly in the wrong business if he allows his religion to undermine the sole purpose of his business.  I hope people get the shits of this guy and stop giving him business. Maybe when he can't pay his bills due to lack of income from having zero customers, he might come to his senses. I highly doubt it though.

Excellent point.  I propose an experiment to determine both the baker's religious sincerity and his business acumen.  Google informs me that the average cost of a wedding cake in the US is a little under $500.  Suppose he was offered $100 000 to craft a cake with the lettering, 'TO HANK AND ROGER ON THEIR WEDDING DAY.  MAY GOD GRANT YOU MANY HAPPY YEARS OF COCK SUCKING' and decorated with marzipan penises.

I suspect (but cannot prove) that Mr. Phillips would jump at this offer in a short minute.

Boru