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Interesting Story
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RE: Interesting Story
Well it depends how you define God.

God as a 'state of consciousness' I wouldn't call God I would just call it some kind of spiritual and/or supernatural 'higher order'. As with belief in souls and the afterlife (you can, in theory - have both of those things without a "God" too).

But this comes down to how you define God...and how am I defining God then? Well I define God(s) as the supernatural creator(s) of the universe(s). Of existence itself - God came before everything else. He/she/it is the eternal and 'the creator' he is a supernatural superbeing, an intelligent designer of the universe.

If you don't believe in that then I would define what you are calling God as a 'state of consciousness' as just some kind of spiritual and/or supernatural 'higher order' or 'deeper meaning' of some kind or something like that..

I myself wouldn't call that "God(s)" how I myself, at least define God(s).

E.G I don't believe in God so I'm an atheist. But if I STILL didn't believe in God but believed in eternal solves and the afterlife and a 'higher order' of consciousness within us and the unviverse and some kind of supernatural or spiritual 'deeper meaning' in existence itself... - I woulds still define myself as an atheist because I still wouldn't believe in God(s) as in a supernatural creator(s).

We could, in theory be eternal have an afterlife and have eternal souls and a 'higher consciousness' with 'deeper meaning' might be involved, at work in the universe and/or nature... - but WITHOUT a "GOd" as in a supernatural creator attached to it. So belief in those things would perhaps make you a spiritual atheist of some kind by my definition - or something to that effect.

Perhaps a pantheist? Although with pantheism it's basically atheism only God is used as a metaphor for EVERYTHING - so really there's no difference to God being nothing. As Steven Weinberg said, to paraphrase: "If you can say "God is energy" then you can find God in a lump of coal" - it kind of loses all meaning if EVERYTHING is God - it makes no difference than if NOTHING is. Because basically all you'd be doing is replacing the word 'energy' or 'matter' with God when you felt like it Tongue

I don't think I'd call you a pantheist though because you do seem to believe there is a 'deeper meaning' and it isn't simply a metaphor. So I'd stick with saying that I would probably define you as something like a 'spiritual atheist' or something like that - something to that effect. Up to you whether you agree or like the label or not of course...

EvF
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Interesting Story - by SilenceTheOppressors - January 26, 2009 at 10:34 pm
RE: Interesting Story - by Demonaura - January 27, 2009 at 12:01 am
RE: Interesting Story - by WWLD - January 27, 2009 at 12:14 am
RE: Interesting Story - by Kyuuketsuki - January 27, 2009 at 5:44 am
RE: Interesting Story - by True Unbeliever - January 27, 2009 at 7:02 pm
RE: Interesting Story - by SilenceTheOppressors - January 27, 2009 at 7:06 pm
RE: Interesting Story - by IamAwake - January 28, 2009 at 6:19 pm
RE: Interesting Story - by SilenceTheOppressors - January 28, 2009 at 6:49 pm
RE: Interesting Story - by Ace Otana - January 28, 2009 at 6:59 pm
RE: Interesting Story - by Tiberius - January 28, 2009 at 7:13 pm
RE: Interesting Story - by WWLD - January 28, 2009 at 8:02 pm
RE: Interesting Story - by Tiberius - January 28, 2009 at 8:28 pm
RE: Interesting Story - by Demonaura - January 29, 2009 at 1:37 am
RE: Interesting Story - by Edwardo Piet - January 29, 2009 at 5:13 am
RE: Interesting Story - by True Unbeliever - January 31, 2009 at 8:21 pm
RE: Interesting Story - by fr0d0 - May 13, 2009 at 6:07 pm
RE: Interesting Story - by Giff - May 13, 2009 at 4:20 am
RE: Interesting Story - by Edwardo Piet - May 13, 2009 at 1:11 pm
RE: Interesting Story - by Edwardo Piet - May 13, 2009 at 6:11 pm
RE: Interesting Story - by fr0d0 - May 13, 2009 at 7:24 pm
RE: Interesting Story - by Edwardo Piet - May 13, 2009 at 7:46 pm
RE: Interesting Story - by fr0d0 - May 14, 2009 at 2:33 pm
RE: Interesting Story - by Edwardo Piet - May 14, 2009 at 2:44 pm
RE: Interesting Story - by ghostlighter - May 20, 2009 at 8:25 pm
RE: Interesting Story - by Edwardo Piet - May 20, 2009 at 8:34 pm
RE: Interesting Story - by ghostlighter - May 20, 2009 at 9:03 pm
RE: Interesting Story - by leo-rcc - May 20, 2009 at 9:06 pm
RE: Interesting Story - by Edwardo Piet - May 20, 2009 at 9:12 pm
RE: Interesting Story - by ghostlighter - May 20, 2009 at 9:30 pm
RE: Interesting Story - by Edwardo Piet - May 20, 2009 at 9:33 pm
RE: Interesting Story - by ghostlighter - May 21, 2009 at 10:50 am
RE: Interesting Story - by Edwardo Piet - May 21, 2009 at 11:06 am

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