RE: Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, Round 2
August 20, 2018 at 5:23 pm
(This post was last modified: August 20, 2018 at 5:24 pm by bennyboy.)
I don't think I fully understand the issue.
Was the cake ultimately refused because of the identity of the person, or something about the cake that expressed trans pride?
I have to say, there are some perfectly legal things that I, if I were a cake maker, wouldn't be willing to write on a cake. "Congratulations on your son's circumcision," maybe, since I think that's a barbaric practice. If pedophilia was somehow legalized (say if it was conducted under the auspices of a Church as "religious expression"), and I knew a cake was intended to be served at a pedophilia party, I might say, "Fuck you guys, you assholes don't get any of my delicious cake!"
What I don't understand is how any of this comes up in this particular case. The gay wedding I get-- the baker is likely being asked to put two grooms on the cake, and the baker doesn't want to do it. But in this case, how does the trans issue come up? It seems to me very likely that someone, knowing the religious proclivities of the baker, is baiting him/her by injecting sexuality into a business transaction that wouldn't require it.
My question would be this: should a cake maker be allowed to refuse to write a message ON the cake if they want? Can they just bake a generic cake, and give the person ordering a tube of stuff to write with?
Was the cake ultimately refused because of the identity of the person, or something about the cake that expressed trans pride?
I have to say, there are some perfectly legal things that I, if I were a cake maker, wouldn't be willing to write on a cake. "Congratulations on your son's circumcision," maybe, since I think that's a barbaric practice. If pedophilia was somehow legalized (say if it was conducted under the auspices of a Church as "religious expression"), and I knew a cake was intended to be served at a pedophilia party, I might say, "Fuck you guys, you assholes don't get any of my delicious cake!"
What I don't understand is how any of this comes up in this particular case. The gay wedding I get-- the baker is likely being asked to put two grooms on the cake, and the baker doesn't want to do it. But in this case, how does the trans issue come up? It seems to me very likely that someone, knowing the religious proclivities of the baker, is baiting him/her by injecting sexuality into a business transaction that wouldn't require it.
My question would be this: should a cake maker be allowed to refuse to write a message ON the cake if they want? Can they just bake a generic cake, and give the person ordering a tube of stuff to write with?