RE: Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, Round 2
August 20, 2018 at 6:58 pm
(August 20, 2018 at 6:33 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:(August 20, 2018 at 5:32 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: So if anyone tried to say they were refusing to make a cake for a black person's graduation party on the grounds that "black graduations" (which isn't even a thing) is somehow against their moral and/or religious beliefs, I would call BS. I would say that baker is discriminating against the person, and not the event itself, since there is no association between graduation and religion.
(August 20, 2018 at 5:32 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Perhaps the best way to handle completely off the wall scenarios like the ones above would be to take them to court and let them figure out whether there is legitimate religious and or moral beliefs behind it.
Are you suggesting the government should be in the business of deciding what is and isn't a legitimate religion? Because I can see all kinds of wrong with that.
(August 20, 2018 at 6:04 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: LOL.... no I don't think that he has a moral objection to baking a cake. And in the other case, he specifically said that he would sell them something else, so it is not about the person either (I'm unsure if this was the case here, but I would assume).
If I recall correctly, he also objected to selling lesbians cupcakes. Jack Phillips is a very troubled man.
No, I meant whether the person actually is practicing a religious or moral belief, or not. Not whether their religion is correct.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
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