RE: Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, Round 2
August 20, 2018 at 8:34 pm
(August 20, 2018 at 8:17 pm)Joods Wrote:(August 20, 2018 at 7:57 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: This isn't lying, and the statement does not preclude not selling other services, which he does not do (such as a bachelor party or a Halloween cake). He stated that he would sell them another cake, so it is not about not selling to the person.
It seems that people keep leaving out why he rejected the order, and making it all about the person. This seem equivalent (to me) to proof-texting or quoting out of context. An important detail is being left out, in order to make it appear that something else is being said; which is not being stated. Perhaps this is out of ignorance, and the people need to educate themselves on what is going on (before sticking their foot in their mouth), but at this point it kind of appears to be more of an intellectual dishonesty (or perhaps just a severe mental handicap). It seems that people have trouble discussing accurately with this.
If you're accusing me of violating a rule, have at it. I quoted you and I was responding to that quote, while remaining on topic, which is NOT a rule violation. Where's the violation that I misquoted you or took what you said out of context?
Furthermore if you're insinuating that I'm the R-word because I don't agree with your side, (yeah, I'm going there because you strongly hinted at it by saying "severe mental handicap" and you know how much I loathe that), then you can take your own severely handicapped ass and Fuck right off.
The baker has a habit, a pattern of denying services and goods to those persons he has a hatred against. He furthers this with his shitty religious beliefs, which he hides behind in order to get around doing the right thing.
If the asshole doesn't want to make cakes for everyone, he should sell his shop and become a preacher. That way he can pander to his kind all he wants.
I wasn’t saying that you have broken a rule, but only telling a part of the story to spread a false narrative is similar to prooftexting or quoting someone out of context.
Also for your pattern that you think you see... what is your sample size? How much data are you basing this on? It would seem that to avoid cherry picking, that you need to include that he offered to sell them something else (in the first case);as well as the other jobs that he has turned down.
If you have another reasonable option for why people mischaracterize the situation, I’m happy to hear it.
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