RE: Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, Round 2
August 21, 2018 at 7:22 pm
(August 21, 2018 at 7:11 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(August 21, 2018 at 7:02 pm)Lucanus Wrote: Yes. White supremacists = hate group.
We can argue about what lies in the middle, like the circumcision case. But refusing service because of someone's sexual orientation is the same as doing so because of the colour of someone's skin. Despicable, bigoted and a major dick move.
Fair enough. Being legally allowed to refuse services if it is for hate groups makes sense.
How do you personally feel about what lies in the middle?
Examples:
-Refusing to make a cake for a Jewish circumcision ceremony.
-Refusing to make a cake for a pro life or pro choice fundraiser.
-Refusing to make a cake for a Catholic infant baptism.
-Refusing to make a cake for a campaign fundraiser for a political candidate you oppose.
Again, this is all assuming the cakes are generic and the Baker only knows because the information was voluntarily relayed to him by the customer without him asking.
The only one I feel could be remotely justified would be the one for the circumcision, as it could be regarded as an endorsement of infant genital mutilation. But there is no way to put it into law so idk. Maybe that's why wiggle room is needed and lawsuits like this need to happen. Some cases have to be evaluated individually.
The other cases are comparatively minor political/philosophical disagreements. I personally wouldn't care, take the money and do the damn job. It's a cake. As long as it's not for Nazis, it's fine.
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Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.
Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.
Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.
Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."
