Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, Round 2

[Catholic_Lady]

Fair enough. Being legally allowed to refuse services if it is for hate group gatherings makes sense.

How do you personally feel about what lies in the middle?

Examples:

-Refusing to make a cake for a Jewish circumcision ceremony.
-Refusing to make a cake for a pro life or pro choice fundraiser.
-Refusing to make a cake for a Catholic infant baptism.
-Refusing to make a cake for a campaign fundraiser for a political candidate you oppose.  

Again, this is all assuming the cakes are generic and the Baker only knows because the information was voluntarily relayed to him by the customer without him asking.

I think you are making this way more complicated than it needs to be, CL

Refusing to bake a cake for Nazis or white supremicists means taking a stand against bigotry and prejudice.

Refusing to bake a cake for LGBTQ2S customers means taking a stand in favour of bigotry and prejudice.

Stop being distracted by the details. Are you for or against behaviour that entrenches discriminatory behaviour against minority groups as defined by law?

All else is irrelevant distraction.

That post was literally NOT addressing nazis or gays lol. It was literally about the stuff in between.

Anyway, there is no distraction, as I personally wouldn't have a problem making a gay wedding cake. It isn't about that. What I'm trying to show here, is that when we start legally forcing people to make cakes to celebrate events/causes they strongly oppose, we start running into problems.

It is easy to say you agree that people should be forced to provide this service, when it is for something you agree with or don't have a problem with... without thinking about what this lack of freedom means in the bigger picture, when it involves other scenarios. That's what I'm trying to show here.

Why not answer the question concerning my examples? Seems you are the one trying to distract from the point I'm trying to make by literally not addressing it at all.

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Examples:

-Refusing to make a cake for a Jewish circumcision ceremony.
-Refusing to make a cake for a pro life or pro choice fundraiser.
-Refusing to make a cake for a Catholic infant baptism.
-Refusing to make a cake for a campaign fundraiser for a political candidate you oppose.  

Again, this is all assuming the cakes are generic and the Baker only knows because the information was voluntarily relayed to him by the customer without him asking.

(actual phone call to bakery)

Hello, can you bake a cake for me? I want it to be a chocolate cake with vanilla icing. And could you write on top:"Congratulations on your circumcision which was immediately followed by a Catholic baptism. Glad you weren't aborted. Ted Cruz 2024."

LOL!