Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?

[bennyboy]

Perhaps it's a simple difference of opinion?  I think that raising awareness of and working towards social justice qualifies as producing something, and I think it's of great value.  Any time the minimum wage goes up..that's a successful social justice initiative.  Anytime it becomes socially unacceptable to marginalize a group of people by spreading racial myths, the world is qualitatively improved by the pc left. 

eh.

Okay, first of all, minimum wage. As a small business owner in Korea, which has recently raised the minimum wage, I could shed a lot of light on that issue. There are clearly some who benefit, clearly some who lose out, and overall, things kind of settle down to a new equilibrium. But at least in Korea, I'm not sure that it has had the desired effect of bringing poorer people closer to the middle class. I'm sure whatever I say you'll just say, "Awww. . . so hard, poor white man" but that's your loss, since in this case I'm very familiar with some of the financial dynamics-- and there's real unrest in Korea now that the workers see losses in job stability, fewer full-time positions being offered, and so on.

I know there are some places where an increased minimum wage looks like a big win. I vaguely remember that Seattle or maybe San Fran had an increase, and it worked out well. However, I think if you tried to enforce a $15 minimum wage in Georgia, the economy would collapse in about a week. Some areas quite simply need to see more pie before people can be given a bigger piece.

Personally, I'd like to see heavy investment going to a really great quality of life, but in a more direct way-- a welfare system that actually makes people comfortable enough to build and chase dreams. But even then, I'm not sure if it would just lead to inflation and increased competition.

Second, for "marginalizing a group of people," dafuq you talking about? You are for sure the more racist person between you and me, and smugly and explicitly so. You just don't care, because you think you are on the correct side of the intolerance. But handouts and legislation against hurting people's feelings aren't the way. Much more important than that is proper investment in real infrastructure that matters-- new city projects, and so on.

I think we can agree on one thing, hopefully. I don't think restitution for black Americans because of slavery, etc. would be healthy. BUT I think injecting money that matters into poor areas would. In a way, it's 6 of one and half a dozen of the other, because so many of the poorest areas are mainly made of minorities. But treating it as an investment in growth and prosperity all over the country, rather than an entitlement based on demographic identity, might frame it as a joint project of proud Americans, rather than as a struggle between victor and victim, winner and loser.

And this is what Americans just can't get. For success, you need to find a way to a win-win scenario, not for each side to shout and bully each other into stupefaction. So long as you use divisive demographics, that is pretty much impossible. I think the biggest chance to end racism in America for sure can't come from either the PC left or the alt-right. My prediction is that it will be CHINA that gives everyone a chance to set aside differences and work toward a common goal-- building fucking bomb shelters.