RE: Christians: What line are you unwilling to cross for God?
August 27, 2018 at 10:32 am
(This post was last modified: August 27, 2018 at 10:37 am by Abaddon_ire.)
(August 27, 2018 at 10:23 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:Pope says your are incorrect. Fail.(August 22, 2018 at 5:50 pm)Khemikal Wrote: The RCC maintains that the cracker is not just a cracker...that after the magic spell is cast..it's not even a cracker.
The manner of it's transformation may be "not fully understood".... yet another mystery of the Not-A-Mystery-Cult™...but the fact of it's transformation is settled.
'Substance' is a term from Scholastic philosophy that refers to the resulting union from final, formal, efficient, and final causes. If any cause is changed then one substance changes into another. Interpreting the terms of the doctrine through a modern lens leads to the errors of interpretation such as the notion that consuming the host is cannibalism or that its physical matter is human flesh.
Similarly the word mystery in English has different connotations (not comprehensible or unknown) that the Latin word "mysterium" which literally means 'hidden'. As such when the the Eucharist is called a mystery, it refers to that which was hidden but has been revealed to believers by faith.
I don't really fault people for making those errors, since we are seeped in modernity, unless of course they have been informed that the significance of the Eucharist is more subtle and embedded in a tradition that preceded the modern era.
(August 27, 2018 at 10:19 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: You, like CL before you have now put yourself it direct opposition to Catholic Doctrine. You know better than the Vatican. You know better than the Pope. You even know better than the majority of catholics even though you are not one yourself...I am intrigued how you will set about defending that.
See above. My defense is based on the express interpretation provided by the Magistrate and not the popular understanding of the layity. One doesn't have to be a practicing Catholic to have knowledge of Catholic traditions. That's like saying that because you listen to the radio you're an expert in electronics.
ETA: Want me to cite it again? "Mysterium Fidei". You didn't read it last time, what hope you will read it this time?
