Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?

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I don't know if I would call Jungian philosophy outdated, it's still very relevant in analytical psychology. Granted I have a very rudimentary understanding of psychology. I think Peterson's ideas on personal responsibility are a lot more straight-forward than most, "Stand up straight with your shoulders back... choose friends who want the best for you..." This in contrast with other self-help books that tout ideas like, "Follow your passion." All in all I could do without the mythology when it comes to Peterson's teachings, but I don't hate it either.

I don't really have strong feelings about the guy one way or the other. I wouldn't exactly call Peterson right-wing either. I don't think there's anything mind-blowing about the guy but I don't hate him either, as many seem to.

One thing's for sure, he's succeeded in getting people to talk about him. Can't hate the guy for that.

The thing about Jung is that the philosophy behind his psychology is so vague and impossible to test that, from a contemporary scientific perspective, it's kind of useless as psychology. I've taken several psych courses, and I can tell you firsthand that I've heard more from my creative writing teacher about Jung than the psychology teachers. Even Freud's theories were (at least on occasion) potentially falsifiable (there is, admittedly, some argument about that), even though most of the time, his theories don't hold up. Jung fails on even that front.

And on Jordan Peterson not being right-wing? Well, with his staunch opposition to referring to transpeople by their given pronouns (admittedly, understandable when one tries to figure out how to pronounce pronounds like "xir"), a very essentialist attitude towards gender, a strong belief in limiting sex to being within marriage, a big hard-on for religion as a controlling force (to the extent that he said one needs God to quit smoking, something he immediately back-tracked on when Matt Dillahunty pointed out how stupid that was, and turned into "well, having a religious experience on shrooms counts"), and an obsession with the excesses of Communism. Now, I have to admit, Trump's raised the bar pretty damn high (at least he's not as racist as an alarmingly high number of his fans are), but that still sounds pretty right wing to me.

Yea once again I'm no psychology expert so I can't really agree or disagree with what you're saying about Jung I can only go off of what I have learned first hand. And to be honest even if Jung's ideas were outdated it doesn't change my opinion on Peterson.

Also, Peterson actually said in one interview that he called trans students of his by their preferred pronouns if they came to him personally and asked him to do so. He was simply opposed to a specific bill which was an attempt to force people into using specific pronouns, which I agree is a bit of a slippery slope, even if the intentions behind the bill were good.

But yea you won't ever hear me defending Peterson's ideas on god. He is so vague about what god actually is and has never directly answered whether or not he literally believe in a supernatural being that created the universe. He always discusses the topic in these vague terms so you can never really pin down what he's saying. That being said I do wonder at times if he's a closet agnostic.