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Ask the Christian
RE: Ask the Christian
(September 19, 2011 at 2:18 pm)Welsh cake Wrote:
(September 19, 2011 at 8:22 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Love has conditions that apply to love.
Glad to see you're still with us.
Glad to see you still aren't.

(September 19, 2011 at 2:18 pm)Welsh cake Wrote: Love, like all things, has conditions. Otherwise it becomes self-love instead.
Ok now prove that please.

(September 19, 2011 at 2:18 pm)Welsh cake Wrote: Loving someone who either doesn't love you back or hates you isn't love, it's just idiotic, it's an unhealthy obsession, normally referred to by many as "stalking".
No WC. It is love. Love could turn to obsession, and even hatred... but that's off topic here, as that isn't the premise. Please try to stay on topic.

(September 19, 2011 at 2:18 pm)Welsh cake Wrote:
Quote:There is no requirement for man to love God as God.
It's pretty damn close:
Matthew 22:37 'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind'
You'd be lying frodo if you told me you loved god this much. Its not possible or practical for a mortal to try and spend every waking moment of his existence loving some god.
So your point is I'm wrong because I'm right?

(September 19, 2011 at 2:18 pm)Welsh cake Wrote: Therefore you can't form any kind of real commitment or loving relationship with an omnibenevolent deity that would be recognised as 'love'. It's just not possible.
How are you arriving at this absurd conclusion??

We are not capable of perfect love therefore we can't love? Really?

(September 19, 2011 at 2:18 pm)Welsh cake Wrote:
Quote:They love him as humans, with their failings... hence the necessity for salvation.
Well that's got to suck for your god concept, to work so hard for so little (unless he's perfect in which case he doesn't want or need to be loved or love anyone). Any angel or demon can easily throw up to him "Hey, man doesn't love you as half as much as you love him". He can't exactly argue against that statement now can he? Its true.
God doesn't need it he desires it and so it must eventually happen. Angels as spiritual beings can already be with God. Why would God compare man with himself when assessing mans ability to love? No where is there a requirement for man to be God.

(September 19, 2011 at 2:18 pm)Welsh cake Wrote:
Quote:I believe that you are subject to justice, yes.
Fuck your jealous god concept and the horse (donkey) he rode in on. I have nothing but contempt for his perverted mockery of the term "justice".
I am so sorry that you don't get it. But lets stick to the topic in hand.
Do you think you should be above justice?

(September 19, 2011 at 2:18 pm)Welsh cake Wrote:
Quote:You're hiding from the sun and complaining that you can't get a sun tan. It's the sun's fault because it's forcing you against your will to expose yourself to it if you want a sun tan.
I'm hiding from the sun because I hate bright light and skin cancer. >.>
Lovely. Now how about addressing the point?
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