RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
August 30, 2018 at 1:58 pm
(This post was last modified: August 30, 2018 at 2:05 pm by Amarok.)
Quote:1. Why do you think the authorship was uncertain?Why shouldn't we ?
Quote: Certainly the people at the time knew who wrote the gospels.Why we assume that?
Quote:Do you think they were left on a doorstep?They would not need to be to be suspect
Quote:Was Paul (a well established author) certain that Jesus rose from the dead?It does not matter if he was
Quote:2. Superstitious society?It was
Quote: Isn't that question begging?Nope
Quote: Do you imagine that the people of the NT didn't know the difference between people who survived crucifixion and those that did not?Yes
Quote:3. Political benefit? 100% the opposite. Most early church leaders had hard lives with bad endings.Pure mythology
Quote:4. Different accounts by different authors is EXACTLY what you want. No evidence of growing over time.No you don't and yes there is
Quote:We can skip to the end--you can't win this argument. The most you can say is that there is not enough evidence for YOU to believe. ]There isn't evidence period it has nothing to do with me
Quote:Fine. I don't doubt that--however I do doubt you are even familiar with the contents. What you cannot say is that it is not evidence for other's belief in God.There is not any evidence
Quote:Because in order to do so, you would have to prove it wrong--but that is simply not possible.No i would not one can say their isn't evidence for others to believe and remain suspension of belief
Quote:Your second paragraph just proves your question begging reasoning you employed from the beginning: miracles don't happen, the NT does not contain miracles so there is no evidence of miracles.Nope no question begging simply your religions failure
Quote: would characterize God as having the essential property of perfect love. It is 100% informed, 100% dependable, 100% sufficient (perhaps a couple of more adjectives preceded by 100%). "God is Love" is christian shorthand for saying this.Yup and it's hyperbolic nonsense as Khem pointed out earlier simply putting adjectives on it changes nothing .
Steve loves throwing the term begging the question around
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