RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
August 30, 2018 at 4:09 pm
(This post was last modified: August 30, 2018 at 4:10 pm by Amarok.)
Quote:1. No no no. First, Luke wrote Luke and Acts. So, no mystery there. It is well understood that the actual apostles did not pen the gospels. The names came from which apostle's group of disciples produced the books. There is absolutely no reason to think that the provenance of the gospels were unknown at the time and every reason to believe that the first century church knew exactly where they came from (they held them in high regard). Your statement shows a real lack of knowledge of what you are talking about.All this is false wrong or apologist derp
2. You are repeating crap from an internet list. We are talking about 100% Jews. They had no "mystery religions". In fact, they had one of the most stable/thorough/written/studied/developed religions in the world at the time.
3. More internet nonsense. The books of the NT go back to the first century. Even Bart Erhman agrees that the text are pretty much as they were when they were written. Political motivation...please, that is fringe nonsense only repeated in atheist echo chambers.
4. Not so. Have you ever read the actual passage in Mark leading up to the shorter ending in Mark 16:8? Tell me where Mark did not believe Jesus was raised from the dead. It is good there are differences. If there were no differences, you would be claiming a conspiracy. Same basic result in every gospel. You can't come close to showing they did not have the same understanding of the events. You mentioned Thomas as a source--this shows you really don't know what you are talking about. Growth of legend? Paul wrote to the churches that ALREADY believed the resurrection of Jesus starting in 50AD. How do you account for that? I'll say it again: we have firm proof that people throughout the Roman empire believed that Jesus rose from the dead in 50AD.
5. No. At best you found scholars who agree with you. Scholars with BIAS (although some try harder than others). Because really, if you do not believe in God, what spin are you going to put on the Gospels? You actually look for reasons why the authors did not mean what they said.
Quote:This is so typical. You know practically nothing about the NT or its provenance. But that does not stop you from very clearly affirming it cannot be even considered evidence for God. Well done.This is so typical you tell a lot of apologist tripe and get huffy when other people don't buy it then try and pass the buck to skeptic for your failure
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