RE: If I lose my soul, do I die?
September 2, 2018 at 5:00 am
(This post was last modified: September 2, 2018 at 5:21 am by Fake Messiah.)
Sure, in times when no one yet understood that air was made of particulate matter but everyone knew you would die if you couldn’t breathe, then it was believed that the movement of the air was somehow spiritual. YHWH was granted this aspect as well, so when Genesis 1:2 says that only “the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters,” it’s talking about the wind. We supposedly say his name whenever we breathe through our mouths. Since the earliest creation myths, the gods would “breathe the breath of life” into their clay golems to animate them.
Also when the Bible was being composed, its authors commonly believed that the first breath of a child was the moment when its body became “infused with the spirit” as a living being. And of course, the flood in Genesis 6 was meant to drown everything that had “the breath of life.”
Also you must understand that concept of soul is older than Bible so Greeks were using that notion and, of course, Bible took that concept from the other religions like the part when Jesus' naked male friend appears when Jesus was arrested in Mark 14:51-2:
“A certain young man was following him, wearing nothing but a linen cloth.
They caught hold of him, but he left the linen cloth and ran off naked.”
This is directly from Greeks like Empedocles who said primordial souls became clothed “in the unfamiliar tunic of flesh”; and Plato who said that at death, souls leave their bodies and ascend to judgment naked.
So the naked guy is like Jesus' soul.
But when it comes to origins of word "soul" it comes from old religions and is actually feminine - such as psyche, pneuma, anima, alma; but as males took over in the battle of sexes, that is religion, you had the third canon of the Council of Nantes in 660 CE ruling that women have no souls, immortal or otherwise. At the end of the 16th century, clergymen declared that the Indian women of the newly discovered American continents were soulless creatures, halfway between animal and human.
Also when the Bible was being composed, its authors commonly believed that the first breath of a child was the moment when its body became “infused with the spirit” as a living being. And of course, the flood in Genesis 6 was meant to drown everything that had “the breath of life.”
Also you must understand that concept of soul is older than Bible so Greeks were using that notion and, of course, Bible took that concept from the other religions like the part when Jesus' naked male friend appears when Jesus was arrested in Mark 14:51-2:
“A certain young man was following him, wearing nothing but a linen cloth.
They caught hold of him, but he left the linen cloth and ran off naked.”
This is directly from Greeks like Empedocles who said primordial souls became clothed “in the unfamiliar tunic of flesh”; and Plato who said that at death, souls leave their bodies and ascend to judgment naked.
So the naked guy is like Jesus' soul.
But when it comes to origins of word "soul" it comes from old religions and is actually feminine - such as psyche, pneuma, anima, alma; but as males took over in the battle of sexes, that is religion, you had the third canon of the Council of Nantes in 660 CE ruling that women have no souls, immortal or otherwise. At the end of the 16th century, clergymen declared that the Indian women of the newly discovered American continents were soulless creatures, halfway between animal and human.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
