Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?

[bennyboy]

If you want to frame it that way, then fine.  The consequence of PC Left goofy-talk is that fewer and fewer people are willing to identify with the PC Left.  Fact or nah?  You think the PC Left is winning the PR war right now?

IDK it's as much a consequence of "pc left goofy-talk" as it's a consequence of the normalization of white supremacy.  After all...how many people actually disagree with the notion that a person probably shouldn't run around spouting off racial slurs and selling harmful racial fiction?

You deliberately define your umbrella in vague terms so as to put as many people as possible under it.  Then you complain that there are more and more people under the umbrella. The only one spouting off racial slurs is you, buddy, in your ad hom attacks against me because I'm (mostly) white.

If we judge by policy...which predates the alt right..then no..it hasn't  There's too much momentum.  That momentum helps to explain the success of this narrative in the first place.  There were plenty of "economically anxious" people looking for even the thinnest shred of something they could point to in order to excuse their deplorable thoughts and impulses.

If you say so.  I hope you're right, to be honest.  I hope that the democrats will run a non-lizard in 2020, and that what's happening in Europe isn't a good litmus test for sentiments in the US.

You think that this..somehow, modifies that fact that you have affirmed the normalizing language of white supremacy in no uncertain terms.  It does not.  As I have repeatedly noted, left wingers are the target market for their bullshit.  Screaming about the negroes wasn't working anymore..so they adopted the language of victimhood.  

The fuckers who have a level a self awareness in this regard that you do not are lost causes.  They can only be screamed at.  There is no path out of this, for them.  My time would be utterly wasted there.

If you were just wasting your time, that would be one thing.  You are doing much more, and much worse, than that-- you are insisting on conflating people as foes who need not be, by group membership that requires one to be a True Scotsman™.  You do this by using linguistic terms so broad that almost anyone standing up for anything at all could be put under your umbrella.

This is getting tedious.  If there were facts that backed up the narrative of white victimization or scientific racism neither position would be so risible.  There aren't.  The fact that they are both fact free and laughable..however, doesn't stop people from affirming them or setting damaging institutional policies on their basis.  It's called pretext, I'm sure you're familiar with the term.

Who are you debating against?  Your own farts.

I've never promoted a "narrative of white victimization."  I say things like, "Please don't make racist comments about white people if you are claiming not to be racist."  You then conflate this with "the narrative of white victimization."  And you're doing it again!

I've never promoted "scientific racism."  In fact, it was my intent to establish policies that were color-blind, and YOUR intent to argue that black people, being victims, should be due special treatment under law, or at least in the use of language.  The facts I used were in fact facts, and I was using them quite explicitly to establish policy ideas that might help black people achieve more equitable pay.  You conflate ANY mention of race at all, if it isn't unconditionally positive, with "scientific racism." But that's not even what that term means-- you are using it wrongly.

If you -do- take your responsibility seriously..you need to swallow your pride and stop trying to win some stupid argument with me.  The positions you have been affirming in this thread are demonstrably false, and demonstrably harmful.  You are one of the voices that lend them credence.  Accept it.  If it's not what you want or what you intend.......then stop.  You've been had, conned, snookered, hoodwinked, flat out fucking lied to, lol.

"Stop hitting yourself!"