RE: Objective Morality?
September 21, 2011 at 4:04 am
(This post was last modified: September 21, 2011 at 5:37 am by lucent.)
Fair enough but it seems to me that objective morals would be absolute
Moral obectivism says that right and wrong is not independent of context, just of opinion. (Murder is wrong except in scenerio 1 2 and 3) Moral Absolutism says context doesn't matter. (Murder is always wrong) So, under moral objectivism morality is fluid and subject to change according to circumstance and consequence.
I've read many moral philosophies, from deontological to utilitarian, which could be used to make a convincing case that the holocaust was absolutely wrong. None of them rely on GodWillsIt.
It's still just what human beings decide. Put a different group of human beings together and they will come to a different conclusion. A group of human beings decided the holocaust was morally justified, and it could happen again. A morality that could change for any reason is not absolute.
Also, what evidence do you base your assertion on that absolute morality exists? Or if God exists, how do you know this god is moral?
I know absolute morality exists because God exists, and His morality is fixed and unchanging. By my conscience, I know some things are absolutely wrong regardless of context. I know He is moral from my own experience and observation, from others experience, and from the bible.
In other words, is it good because Yahweh wills it? Or does Yahweh will it because it is good?
It's good because God is good. That His nature is goodness itself. So He, as the supreme good, only does what is good. What is good could be defined as what God does.
Moral obectivism says that right and wrong is not independent of context, just of opinion. (Murder is wrong except in scenerio 1 2 and 3) Moral Absolutism says context doesn't matter. (Murder is always wrong) So, under moral objectivism morality is fluid and subject to change according to circumstance and consequence.
I've read many moral philosophies, from deontological to utilitarian, which could be used to make a convincing case that the holocaust was absolutely wrong. None of them rely on GodWillsIt.
It's still just what human beings decide. Put a different group of human beings together and they will come to a different conclusion. A group of human beings decided the holocaust was morally justified, and it could happen again. A morality that could change for any reason is not absolute.
Also, what evidence do you base your assertion on that absolute morality exists? Or if God exists, how do you know this god is moral?
I know absolute morality exists because God exists, and His morality is fixed and unchanging. By my conscience, I know some things are absolutely wrong regardless of context. I know He is moral from my own experience and observation, from others experience, and from the bible.
In other words, is it good because Yahweh wills it? Or does Yahweh will it because it is good?
It's good because God is good. That His nature is goodness itself. So He, as the supreme good, only does what is good. What is good could be defined as what God does.
(September 20, 2011 at 11:12 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Or does Yahweh will it because it is good?
