Does positive masculinity exist? Men correct the woman.

[Aroura]

No!  No more than aggressiveness belongs solely to men.  Women can be violent, too.

OMG, you guys.  There is a thread discussing things that men can do that are toxic.  This is a thread to discuss things that men can do that are positive.

I started a thread to try and focus on positive things for guys, instead of negative.  And the first three men in it shit all over the idea.

Well done.  Point taken.  Men really are assholes. You three win the argument by not understanding it, strawmanning it, and making someone trying to stand up for something good feel like shit. /congratz.  I almost forgot there for a minute what a bunch of assholes you guys really can be.

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No you are right, apparently masculinity IS toxic. Well played! You guys outhought the woman and proved your point.

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Seriously, I don't even know why I fucking try.

I didn't disagree with you. I wanted to know your reasoning behind why you considered it a masculine trait. I thought masculine meant relating to men?

All traits can be either. That's just completely besides the point I was trying to make.

I wanted to try to give some examples of things men might adopt as positive examples in place of the toxic ones, and role models for such traits. I wanted to focus on positive behaviors instead of all the threads focusing on the negative ones.

This is in opposition to the toxic masculinity thread. We are discussing masculinity. Men can be empathic, and nurturing, traits generally associated with women, as I said in my OP. Few things should be genderized. Which I thought was clear in my op. That's the point of this entire post, if anyone bothered to actually read past the first few lines. Men can have what are often viewed as feminine traits and still be strong men.

Again, just thought I'd try and be positive about men instead of shitting all over them. Lesson learned.