RE: Are there any Christian proselytizers left in this subforum?
September 29, 2018 at 6:38 pm
(This post was last modified: September 29, 2018 at 6:53 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(September 29, 2018 at 6:37 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: No. MK is but one theist. I like MK as a human being, but I disagree with his religious views, and I recognize that he is inexpert with logic. So what? That describes "Catholic me" when I was younger. Maybe MK's logic will improve the more people point out its flaws. Thus, in the end, good has been attained, whether any particular post from MK is good or not.
I guess I have to remind you that MK isn't the only theist in the world. Stop holding him up as some kind of exemplar. That's stupid. I mean, Khem, you are better than a tactic like that. (Meh. I guess even Bobby Fischer went Bxh2 sometimes, but still.)
A significant number of theists are very skilled with logic and can offer a lot of substance to debates. A significant number of theists (I'd estimate around 30%) are genuinely committed to peace and morality. In this world, THAT FUCKING COUNTS FOR SOMETHING!
But you aren't really thinking. You are sharp and perceptive, Khem, but your disdain for theists had led you to illogic.
It only takes one to incite genocide...and there have been many more than just the one. Say...some guy named Mo....or some asshole named Jesus? You've failed to show that my illogic is whats lead me to a disdain for theism..and by extension, theists.
OFC he's not the only theist in the world. I'm married to an evangelical christian, lol. We don't choose the people we love.
Mystic -is- an examplar of theistic belief. He believes every silly thing his theistic religion tells him. Those people are a problem, commonly. Do you disagree? It doesn't matter what other skills any given theist has..those aren't theist skills. Remove their theism, keep those skills.
What will we have lost?
Mystic, for his part..would just be the guy I used to know. I'm sure he has skills. Hell, he used to be cool...I didn't agree with him about gods then..either (he was a deist). Still, he never went full fucking terrorist recruit beforehand. That took strong belief in his theistic god.
Meanwhile, find me a single theist who offers substance to any debate about the existence of a god. I'll wait..but I won't hold my breath, lol.
(since it was all caps....lol, that some portion of people are committed to something you think is good means absolutely nothing to our discussion unless their theistic beliefs are the only way that a person could be committed to those things - frankly, theists so committed are often so committed in opposition to the strictures of their theist gods.)
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