RE: Does positive masculinity exist? Men correct the woman.
September 30, 2018 at 8:08 am
(This post was last modified: September 30, 2018 at 8:11 am by I_am_not_mafia.)
I missed this thread and don't really have time to read it at the moment. But I think that there is a problem with masculine traits not really being that required so much in society any more. In earlier times, men would go off and fight in wars, or other tribes or hunt big animals which could easily kill them. Physical strength was also far more useful before the age of machines. This means though that the drives and urges are still there but no outlet to be useful. But they still have to go somewhere.
I found a noticeable difference when moving across the country from a flat, built up area where men had trouble being men to a mountainous area where you could push yourself physically to test your limits. I joined a scuba diving club in my mid twenties and the men there were quite hostile to single women. They'd want to wallow around under water like a floating whale feeling all tough and they felt threatened when a woman also did it quite nonchalantly. I then moved up north and joined a paragliding club. No one treated me badly there because everyone had a means by which they could terrify themselves (the wind in Scotland goes from flat calm to blown out most of the time, or the other way). This meant that the men did not feel as threatened by a woman as much as they did of falling out the sky.
When I moved down south again, this time with a Scottish husband, he saw first hand what I was talking about. His boss would boast about sailing and how he was really pushing himself by doing so. So my husband casually mentioned once having to climb out of the way of an avalanche in the gully on Buachaille etive Mor when he was walking up there using two walking poles as ice picks which killed the two climbers below him. The boss shut up after that. But if I had said that as a woman then the man would have belittled me instead.
I personally found the paragliding clubs down south to be particularly safety conscious to the extent that it would hamper people's progress in the sport. It was a way of imposing control and increasing your standing in the community by keeping others down.
I found a noticeable difference when moving across the country from a flat, built up area where men had trouble being men to a mountainous area where you could push yourself physically to test your limits. I joined a scuba diving club in my mid twenties and the men there were quite hostile to single women. They'd want to wallow around under water like a floating whale feeling all tough and they felt threatened when a woman also did it quite nonchalantly. I then moved up north and joined a paragliding club. No one treated me badly there because everyone had a means by which they could terrify themselves (the wind in Scotland goes from flat calm to blown out most of the time, or the other way). This meant that the men did not feel as threatened by a woman as much as they did of falling out the sky.
When I moved down south again, this time with a Scottish husband, he saw first hand what I was talking about. His boss would boast about sailing and how he was really pushing himself by doing so. So my husband casually mentioned once having to climb out of the way of an avalanche in the gully on Buachaille etive Mor when he was walking up there using two walking poles as ice picks which killed the two climbers below him. The boss shut up after that. But if I had said that as a woman then the man would have belittled me instead.
I personally found the paragliding clubs down south to be particularly safety conscious to the extent that it would hamper people's progress in the sport. It was a way of imposing control and increasing your standing in the community by keeping others down.
