Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"?

[robvalue]

To try and make my point... no one would say they are a mathematical realist. It’s taken for granted that within every mathematical system, there are mathematical facts. It can’t be any other way. I’m trying to find out if this is the same, or different, for morality. If it’s the same I don’t see the point; and if it’s supposedly different I think it’s just using equivocation and assertion to try and make it appear that it’s saying more than it actually is.

Of course, one could insist the data "comes from reality", but a theist will insist their bullshit is real, so they will consider themselves to be doing the same thing. They’re not trying to make data up.