(September 22, 2011 at 8:23 pm)aleialoura Wrote: Tell me, bub, just because the heinous bible has been better preserved, what evidence can you offer that it is any more valid than the texts I mentioned?
That right there is evidence because you can’t even have confidence in what the other texts originally said because their preservation and transmission is extremely poor at best.
Graphic immorality? Upon what authority do you stand to charge the God of scripture with immorality?
(September 23, 2011 at 12:03 am)Minimalist Wrote: Oh, FFS...and Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker are characters in the same fucking movie, too. Use one set of fictional characters to prove your godboy was real. Very clever but until you come up with some fucking evidence that there were any fucking apostles you are just shit out of luck again.
This is such a lame argument. The historian Luke mentions the apostles, they existed. Do you believe that Plato or Homer ever existed? This ought to be fun.
Quote:Unlike the mythical Jesus Christ, we know what Caesar looked like and we have a complete history of his life.
How do you know what he looked like? Do you have a photograph of him?
Quote: We have words written by Caesar himself and words written by both his friends and his enemies.
Actually you only have copies of words supposedly written by Caesar, how do you know Caesar wrote those words? You have not proved that his friends or enemies even existed so you can’t use that evidence either. Sorry. It sucks when your own ridiculous standards are used on you doesn’t it?
Quote: Artifacts confirm his life and death, as do his successors.
Oh yeah like what? You have not proved the existence of his supposed successors either, so you can’t use that one.
Quote: Caesar established a style of government – and a calendar – which endured for centuries.
So? Jesus established a world religion that has survived for millennia.
Were you aware that the earliest manuscripts we have of any of Caesar’s writings date back to 1000 A.D., that’s almost 1000 years after Caesar’s life. There are only 10 copies in existence. Compare that to the earliest manuscripts of the New Testament being written within the same century as their authors and the fact there are over 5000 manuscripts in existence today and we see why Jesus myth cranks like you fail miserably.
(September 23, 2011 at 1:32 am)Cinjin Wrote:
So you can’t provide an example to back up your assertion? I knew you were being dishonest!
Why would you try and tell a Calvinist that his success in debate is measured by conversions? That’s just absurd and actually pretty hilarious.
