RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"?
October 7, 2018 at 1:10 pm
(This post was last modified: October 7, 2018 at 1:11 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(October 7, 2018 at 12:23 pm)DLJ Wrote: Here's the crux:It's possible for people to reach a consensus..it becomes more plausible when we posit that there may be moral facts, however, those moral facts are not based upon that consensus.
(October 7, 2018 at 8:18 am)Khemikal Wrote: ...
Sure, we need to know what's important to us. Individually, as a group, as a society. Just knowing what[']s important to us won't help us to reach an objective moral conclusion, though.
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You and I, Rob, see this as 'consensus' rather than 'objective'... As different people value different things we cannot reach the same kind of objectivity (impartially etc.) that we can with two or more scientists agreeing about the facts about the house or quantity of water in the jug.
To put it even more briefly. That there is a consensus (if there is) is far less important than how any consensus is reached.
Quote:Well, if I can't get you to agree that we're talking about something, if I can't get you to agree on at least one of what those things are, and I can't get you to agree that some statements may be true or false...how can we have a discussion about -anything-?(October 7, 2018 at 8:18 am)Khemikal Wrote: ...
With me so far?
Short answer: Nope.
Quote:I kinda like that.Is that an objective statement..or just your opinion?
OK, we don't do 'souls' anymore and back then "common sense" is what we would nowadays call 'critical thinking' but it has a subtle mix of the biological event-process (sense), thresholds (conscience), duty, values and consequentialism; it also includes a focus on continual improvements of maturity and capability.
Importantly it identifies what is actually at the root of a morality system... our sense of balance / equilibrium.
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