RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
October 11, 2018 at 5:16 am
(This post was last modified: October 11, 2018 at 5:16 am by OakTree500.)
My problem with an all knowing/powerful god is:
Theists say god is "All Knowing" and "All Powerful". I mean he/she/it created the universe in, what was essentially, a thought. Right? If that is the case, "God" knows everything that has happened or will happen. As such, god would have known, that in creating Adam/Eve, Eve would eat from the tree of knowledge. It KNEW that, and still didn't do anything about it. It also knew that by a creature that he created doing this, for some reason creates "original sin" and he would end up crucifying it's own son (Jesus) later down the line for it to forgive us..........FOR SOMETHING IT KNEW WAS GOING TO HAPPEN AND DID NOTHING ABOUT.
Many Theists say "well he left the choice to them, so it's there fault etc". Well I put to you my favorite example, I've used a few times now: If I put a bomb in my house, on the table, with a giant red button on it, and said to my 8 year old daughter "I'm popping out for a bit, DON'T PRESS THAT BUTTON", within 5 seconds of me leaving the house, it would explode. I KNOW that she would press it, yet I'm not all knowing and powerful, and the fact my daughter has freewill/no higher knowledge, much like you might expect Adam/Eve to have. I'd also go to jail for such an act, because it's fucking neglect.
And that's why having an all powerful, all knowing god, IS TOTAL HORSE SHIT, because if it's true, then god is either A) Just a total asshole [For example: why flood the world at all? Just think about starting a new world or don't] or B) isn't and just doesn't care. OR, alternatively, C) that said god isn't all knowing/powerful, which means it's powers have limits, which means there could be another being more powerful and/or god is just super-powered alien of some description. The old "Can god make a weight so heavy, that itself cannot lift?" comes to mind. [If it can, it has limits. If it can't, It's not all powerful etc]
It's one of many things that if you stop to think about it, it makes no sense at all.
Theists say god is "All Knowing" and "All Powerful". I mean he/she/it created the universe in, what was essentially, a thought. Right? If that is the case, "God" knows everything that has happened or will happen. As such, god would have known, that in creating Adam/Eve, Eve would eat from the tree of knowledge. It KNEW that, and still didn't do anything about it. It also knew that by a creature that he created doing this, for some reason creates "original sin" and he would end up crucifying it's own son (Jesus) later down the line for it to forgive us..........FOR SOMETHING IT KNEW WAS GOING TO HAPPEN AND DID NOTHING ABOUT.
Many Theists say "well he left the choice to them, so it's there fault etc". Well I put to you my favorite example, I've used a few times now: If I put a bomb in my house, on the table, with a giant red button on it, and said to my 8 year old daughter "I'm popping out for a bit, DON'T PRESS THAT BUTTON", within 5 seconds of me leaving the house, it would explode. I KNOW that she would press it, yet I'm not all knowing and powerful, and the fact my daughter has freewill/no higher knowledge, much like you might expect Adam/Eve to have. I'd also go to jail for such an act, because it's fucking neglect.
And that's why having an all powerful, all knowing god, IS TOTAL HORSE SHIT, because if it's true, then god is either A) Just a total asshole [For example: why flood the world at all? Just think about starting a new world or don't] or B) isn't and just doesn't care. OR, alternatively, C) that said god isn't all knowing/powerful, which means it's powers have limits, which means there could be another being more powerful and/or god is just super-powered alien of some description. The old "Can god make a weight so heavy, that itself cannot lift?" comes to mind. [If it can, it has limits. If it can't, It's not all powerful etc]
It's one of many things that if you stop to think about it, it makes no sense at all.
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