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Beating women in Islam
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RE: Beating women in Islam
(October 12, 2018 at 4:58 am)Khemikal Wrote: Many hadiths say -  so...it sounds like they were reading magic book, saw the wifebeating bit, and went, "wait, wtf, nah".

Word of god, indeed.

As God would expect humans to do, and so the word tharaba should be interpreted in the same way when it says "and when you touched women" even though that line is always seen as an expression of intercourse, tharaba should be seen in that light, and God created males and females, and so he expects us to interpret his words in the best positive manner on how to relate to each other.

(October 12, 2018 at 4:59 am)robvalue Wrote: If the book said to just beat the shit out of every woman you see for no reason, would Muslims do that? If not, then the book cannot be so magic and its authority is contingent upon already agreeing with its contents.

The moral and signs of the book cannot go against proven and clear signs within the soul, Muslims would be obligated to reject that verse in this case, just as Christians and Jews were expected to leave the parts of their scriptures that contradicted reason and morality.
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Beating women in Islam - by WinterHold - October 11, 2018 at 4:03 pm
RE: Beating women in Islam - by Minimalist - October 11, 2018 at 4:14 pm
RE: Beating women in Islam - by Brian37 - October 11, 2018 at 4:20 pm
RE: Beating women in Islam - by WinterHold - October 11, 2018 at 4:42 pm
RE: Beating women in Islam - by Minimalist - October 11, 2018 at 4:21 pm
RE: Beating women in Islam - by The Valkyrie - October 11, 2018 at 4:23 pm
RE: Beating women in Islam - by Brian37 - October 11, 2018 at 4:28 pm
RE: Beating women in Islam - by The Valkyrie - October 11, 2018 at 4:29 pm
RE: Beating women in Islam - by WinterHold - October 11, 2018 at 5:00 pm
RE: Beating women in Islam - by Brian37 - October 11, 2018 at 5:41 pm
RE: Beating women in Islam - by WinterHold - October 11, 2018 at 5:57 pm
RE: Beating women in Islam - by Brian37 - October 11, 2018 at 7:09 pm
RE: Beating women in Islam - by The Valkyrie - October 11, 2018 at 6:36 pm
RE: Beating women in Islam - by WinterHold - October 12, 2018 at 4:16 am
RE: Beating women in Islam - by brewer - October 12, 2018 at 8:03 am
RE: Beating women in Islam - by SaStrike - October 11, 2018 at 4:47 pm
RE: Beating women in Islam - by The Grand Nudger - October 11, 2018 at 5:19 pm
RE: Beating women in Islam - by WinterHold - October 11, 2018 at 5:42 pm
RE: Beating women in Islam - by Brian37 - October 11, 2018 at 5:49 pm
RE: Beating women in Islam - by Minimalist - October 11, 2018 at 5:39 pm
RE: Beating women in Islam - by WinterHold - October 11, 2018 at 5:49 pm
RE: Beating women in Islam - by Brian37 - October 11, 2018 at 6:02 pm
RE: Beating women in Islam - by WinterHold - October 11, 2018 at 7:06 pm
RE: Beating women in Islam - by Deesse23 - October 11, 2018 at 6:25 pm
RE: Beating women in Islam - by WinterHold - October 11, 2018 at 7:30 pm
RE: Beating women in Islam - by AFTT47 - October 11, 2018 at 8:22 pm
RE: Beating women in Islam - by WinterHold - October 12, 2018 at 5:52 am
RE: Beating women in Islam - by Deesse23 - October 12, 2018 at 7:33 am
RE: Beating women in Islam - by WinterHold - October 12, 2018 at 11:09 am
RE: Beating women in Islam - by Minimalist - October 11, 2018 at 5:55 pm
RE: Beating women in Islam - by WinterHold - October 11, 2018 at 6:15 pm
RE: Beating women in Islam - by brewer - October 11, 2018 at 6:38 pm
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RE: Beating women in Islam - by WinterHold - October 12, 2018 at 4:22 am
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RE: Beating women in Islam - by The Grand Nudger - October 12, 2018 at 4:17 am
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RE: Beating women in Islam - by The Grand Nudger - October 12, 2018 at 4:51 am
RE: Beating women in Islam - by The Grand Nudger - October 12, 2018 at 4:58 am
RE: Beating women in Islam - by MysticKnight - October 12, 2018 at 5:00 am
RE: Beating women in Islam - by MysticKnight - October 12, 2018 at 5:03 am
RE: Beating women in Islam - by robvalue - October 12, 2018 at 4:59 am
RE: Beating women in Islam - by WinterHold - October 12, 2018 at 6:18 am
RE: Beating women in Islam - by The Grand Nudger - October 12, 2018 at 5:02 am
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RE: Beating women in Islam - by WinterHold - April 9, 2019 at 8:33 am
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