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Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"?
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"?
(October 12, 2018 at 5:29 am)DLJ Wrote:
(October 12, 2018 at 1:48 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: If I told you that because there was built in bias, science has no objectivity...what would you think?  

I'd think I may have to agree.  But I would argue that the methodologies have been designed to reduce bias as much as possible and have self-correcting mechanisms.
Okay legit...so an objective morality, then, would be one in which the methodologies have been designed to reduce bias as much as possible and have self correcting mechanisms. A scientific fact and a moral fact are equals, in the position of moral realism. Moral realism doesn't deny -our- bias, it simply contends that it would be possible, even though we are biased, to purport to report a fact, get the facts right, and so...

(this is why moral realism makes use of things like reason and blind construction)

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-Points up.
And not because it's night-time but because it's monsoon season and I'm 31 floors up (on a hill) and the sky is white.
A case example of pointless contrarianism, lol.  

Quote:Well, that's a different question.  Now you are asking about my, personal, first-person singular possessive, beliefs.

I thought you were trying to establish objectivity.

Dodgy

No, it's not.  I'm asking you whether your objection to things being "really" right or wrong is made in good faith (in this case in the example of assaulting a child).  If you don't actually think that it's not really right, or really wrong, your comment was time wasting contrarianism and I don't have to address it. 

If you are objecting in good faith, and you can't see how or why assaulting a child is really wrong (or really right) then I can run with that - but I need clarity...so that I don't pitch straw and field a poor argument for something that you don't actually believe. Sound reasonable?
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Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - September 28, 2018 at 2:13 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by Ivan Denisovich - September 28, 2018 at 2:30 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - September 28, 2018 at 4:27 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by The Valkyrie - September 28, 2018 at 2:49 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by Foxaèr - September 28, 2018 at 2:52 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by I_am_not_mafia - September 28, 2018 at 8:27 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by Foxaèr - September 28, 2018 at 8:27 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by I_am_not_mafia - September 28, 2018 at 8:30 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by Foxaèr - September 28, 2018 at 8:33 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by I_am_not_mafia - September 28, 2018 at 8:36 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by Foxaèr - September 28, 2018 at 8:39 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by I_am_not_mafia - September 28, 2018 at 8:43 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by Foxaèr - September 28, 2018 at 8:44 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by I_am_not_mafia - September 28, 2018 at 8:46 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by I_am_not_mafia - September 28, 2018 at 8:48 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by SaStrike - September 28, 2018 at 9:21 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by Angrboda - September 28, 2018 at 9:41 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by I_am_not_mafia - September 28, 2018 at 9:45 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by unfogged - September 28, 2018 at 10:46 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by John V - October 1, 2018 at 3:49 pm
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by possibletarian - September 28, 2018 at 8:47 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by emjay - September 28, 2018 at 8:47 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by The Valkyrie - September 28, 2018 at 3:10 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by bennyboy - September 28, 2018 at 5:22 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - September 28, 2018 at 6:05 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - September 28, 2018 at 7:33 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by Belacqua - September 28, 2018 at 7:11 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by Fireball - September 28, 2018 at 7:46 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by Angrboda - September 28, 2018 at 8:47 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by Foxaèr - September 28, 2018 at 8:48 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by I_am_not_mafia - September 28, 2018 at 9:23 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by I_am_not_mafia - September 28, 2018 at 9:40 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - September 28, 2018 at 9:47 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by FatAndFaithless - September 28, 2018 at 9:53 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by I_am_not_mafia - September 28, 2018 at 10:07 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - September 28, 2018 at 10:20 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by Mister Agenda - September 28, 2018 at 10:27 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by The Grand Nudger - September 28, 2018 at 10:28 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by I_am_not_mafia - September 28, 2018 at 10:42 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by Angrboda - September 28, 2018 at 10:36 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by The Grand Nudger - September 28, 2018 at 10:57 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by I_am_not_mafia - September 28, 2018 at 11:08 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by The Grand Nudger - September 28, 2018 at 11:37 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by I_am_not_mafia - September 28, 2018 at 12:14 pm
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by The Grand Nudger - September 28, 2018 at 11:59 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by SaStrike - September 28, 2018 at 1:36 pm
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by The Grand Nudger - September 28, 2018 at 12:15 pm
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by I_am_not_mafia - September 28, 2018 at 12:19 pm
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by vulcanlogician - September 28, 2018 at 10:42 pm
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - September 28, 2018 at 10:52 pm
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by vulcanlogician - September 28, 2018 at 11:21 pm
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 1, 2018 at 2:17 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by bennyboy - October 1, 2018 at 3:02 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by Alan V - October 4, 2018 at 10:43 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 4, 2018 at 10:50 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by bennyboy - September 28, 2018 at 11:30 pm
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 1, 2018 at 3:49 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by Angrboda - October 1, 2018 at 10:05 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 1, 2018 at 4:12 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 1, 2018 at 6:38 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 1, 2018 at 4:24 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 1, 2018 at 6:01 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 1, 2018 at 9:50 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 1, 2018 at 10:30 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by bennyboy - October 1, 2018 at 6:42 pm
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by no one - October 1, 2018 at 7:37 pm
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 1, 2018 at 11:31 pm
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 2, 2018 at 12:48 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by bennyboy - October 2, 2018 at 8:01 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by Angrboda - October 2, 2018 at 10:59 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 4, 2018 at 3:07 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 4, 2018 at 6:41 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 4, 2018 at 9:50 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by DLJ - October 4, 2018 at 9:59 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 4, 2018 at 10:02 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 4, 2018 at 10:58 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 4, 2018 at 11:06 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 4, 2018 at 11:34 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 4, 2018 at 11:58 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by DLJ - October 4, 2018 at 11:41 pm
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by DLJ - October 5, 2018 at 7:00 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by DLJ - October 5, 2018 at 7:43 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by DLJ - October 5, 2018 at 9:14 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by DLJ - October 5, 2018 at 10:05 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 6, 2018 at 1:55 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by bennyboy - October 6, 2018 at 4:47 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 6, 2018 at 6:05 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 7, 2018 at 2:03 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by Angrboda - October 7, 2018 at 9:31 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 7, 2018 at 3:49 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by DLJ - October 7, 2018 at 12:23 pm
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by Angrboda - October 7, 2018 at 12:38 pm
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by DLJ - October 7, 2018 at 12:54 pm
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by DLJ - October 7, 2018 at 1:33 pm
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by DLJ - October 8, 2018 at 8:31 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by DLJ - October 10, 2018 at 6:52 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by DLJ - October 11, 2018 at 11:19 pm
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by TTT - October 12, 2018 at 12:57 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by DLJ - October 12, 2018 at 1:34 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by TTT - October 12, 2018 at 2:15 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by DLJ - October 12, 2018 at 4:31 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by DLJ - October 12, 2018 at 5:29 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 12, 2018 at 5:09 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by Angrboda - October 13, 2018 at 11:25 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by The Grand Nudger - October 12, 2018 at 5:42 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 12, 2018 at 5:50 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 12, 2018 at 7:35 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 12, 2018 at 7:48 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 12, 2018 at 8:10 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 13, 2018 at 10:48 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 13, 2018 at 12:41 pm
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 13, 2018 at 2:55 pm
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 14, 2018 at 5:16 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 16, 2018 at 1:45 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by Belacqua - October 14, 2018 at 6:37 pm
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 16, 2018 at 3:07 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 16, 2018 at 3:44 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 16, 2018 at 8:36 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by DLJ - October 16, 2018 at 1:47 pm
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by Angrboda - October 16, 2018 at 3:44 pm
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by Angrboda - October 17, 2018 at 12:43 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by DLJ - October 17, 2018 at 5:56 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by Alan V - October 18, 2018 at 7:33 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by DLJ - October 18, 2018 at 8:50 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by Alan V - October 18, 2018 at 11:06 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by DLJ - October 17, 2018 at 9:25 pm
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by DLJ - October 18, 2018 at 7:12 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by robvalue - October 18, 2018 at 7:19 am
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by Angrboda - October 18, 2018 at 12:25 pm
RE: Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"? - by DLJ - October 18, 2018 at 1:04 pm

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