Does anyone own "The Moral Landscape"?

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I still have no clue what moral realism is supposed to be. I appreciate the efforts to explain it, but I’m no closer I’m afraid.

It seems to either be about some fixed objective morality, or it’s about how any moral system must work internally. The former is garbage as I’ve described. The latter seems pointless. If we're designing a moral system, we can make it work however we want. It can be logical, illogical, consistent or inconsistent. What is "wrong" and "right" is completely up to people / societies / aliens / uber-beings / cosmic consciousness to define for themselves. We can objectively define outcomes of actions, but we can do so without any moral commentary. It’s when we step in and say, "So you should do that" or "So you shouldn’t do that" that a moral judgement has been made.

So honestly, I have no clue. If it’s some third option, I’m at a loss. It’s such a vague idea (morality) in the first place that trying to attach rules to it seems pointless. It would just be a way of evaluating what we see was a "useful" system, merely on its internal consistency. But we may view it as brilliantly good or vile brutality, regardless of its consistency. Like I say, if you compare it to gravity, we're trying to model outcomes. Gravity is doing something.

I’m going to keep typing until my fingers get tired. I know you all enjoy reading my endless drive. I really need to