RE: Beating women in Islam
October 13, 2018 at 5:29 am
(This post was last modified: October 13, 2018 at 5:37 am by WinterHold.)
(October 12, 2018 at 12:00 pm)robvalue Wrote: Yeah, it does talk about beating for sure, but Atlas being a nonviolent person manages to rationalise it away. He does the same with all the vile nonsense in the book, because he’s better than that. Good on him.
But imagine if his wife came into the room with his Quran, and it fell open at a certain page, and there was a passage they had never seen before. Somehow, everyone had overlooked it up to this point. Or maybe allah himself just magically inserted it into the book. A hasty internet search shows that this new verse has somehow become assimilated everywhere.
It reads: "Beat your wife into unconsciousness every single day. I mean it. Do it. No excuses. This overrides any other part of the book that may indicate otherwise."
"You’re not going to really do this, are you my love? Robvalue thinks you will have the courage to make a stand against this!"
That scenario doesn't even fall in the "what if"; it falls in the "not possible".
I know the book, and if there was other verses that say "beat the shit out of your wife" then I would've known; I studied it all, searching it in Arabic is quite easy too if you used such website:
quran.ksu.edu.sa
or
quran.com
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What you're saying does not exist. I read this book since I was 6 or 7, it's more than 20 years. Believe me if such a verse existed; I will know.
As a token of honesty, here are all the laws that seem "controversial" or "brutal" in the book:
1-Wife beating if she rebels (I provided evidence from the same book that an eye is for an eye; in other words your wife must beat you first)
2-Execution (if somebody took a life; his/her life must be taken as well)
3-Cutting the hand of the thieve
4-If somebody had sex outside the law of marriage, and 4 witnesses saw him, he/she is flogged 100 times
5-If somebody accused somebody else of having sex outside the law of marriage, and didn't bring 4 witnesses, he/she is flogged 80 times
6-People who corrupt on earth (like terrorist) are executed, either by direct killing, or crucifixion after cutting their hand and leg, or banish them from the realm.
That's all. If beating women was okay and Islam was a sexist religion; a verse will prove it.
Crazy men who beat women and think that abusing women is fine, belong to number 6 in the list above: banishing them from the realm sounds very convenient.
I disagree with you, rob.
God punishes those who beat people without reason.
(October 12, 2018 at 12:11 pm)Grandizer Wrote: I thought the OP was still suggesting that wives be beaten by their husbands, but only if they rebel in the most severe way. At least that's how I understand it. Am I getting something wrong here?
An eye for an eye.
If my wife didn't punch me, why would I punch her?
And of course, I can choose not to.
(October 12, 2018 at 12:15 pm)robvalue Wrote: Yeah, he is, but he’s trying to soft-sell it to us (and himself). He wants to believe it’s referring to some sort of justified and unavoidable gentle violence which isn’t really going to happen much.
I wonder if a real wife beater would have any problem interpreting it to fit their own ends? I think not. Sloppy work Allah, you peaceful bastard. Bitch slap.
That's why I think women must attend self-defense classes and carry tasers at all times.
A wife beater has a sentence awaiting him in the Quran; and an eye for an eye.
He beats his wife? he should get the same treatment.
