(October 13, 2018 at 5:29 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:(October 12, 2018 at 12:00 pm)robvalue Wrote: Yeah, it does talk about beating for sure, but Atlas being a nonviolent person manages to rationalise it away. He does the same with all the vile nonsense in the book, because he’s better than that. Good on him.
But imagine if his wife came into the room with his Quran, and it fell open at a certain page, and there was a passage they had never seen before. Somehow, everyone had overlooked it up to this point. Or maybe allah himself just magically inserted it into the book. A hasty internet search shows that this new verse has somehow become assimilated everywhere.
It reads: "Beat your wife into unconsciousness every single day. I mean it. Do it. No excuses. This overrides any other part of the book that may indicate otherwise."
"You’re not going to really do this, are you my love? Robvalue thinks you will have the courage to make a stand against this!"
That scenario doesn't even fall in the "what if"; it falls in the "not possible".
I know the book, and if there was other verses that say "beat the shit out of your wife" then I would've known; I studied it all, searching it in Arabic is quite easy too if you used such website:
quran.ksu.edu.sa
or
quran.com
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What you're saying does not exist. I read this book since I was 6 or 7, it's more than 20 years. Believe me if such a verse existed; I will know.
As a token of honesty, here are all the laws that seem "controversial" or "brutal" in the book:
1-Wife beating if she rebels (I provided evidence from the same book that an eye is for an eye; in other words your wife must beat you first)
Actually the Qur'an says if you fear rebellion. It doesn't say the wife has to actually do something other than cause a fear of rebellion.
If this verse was fair and equal it would just say "If your partner rebels against you then rebel against them in the same way they did to you."
But it doesn't say that at all.
Firstly it gives men the position of being able to judge their wives based in the emotions the husband feels towards his wife, namely fear.
And then the verse allows the husband power to act on these emotions through verbal reprimanding, then forsaking them in the bedroom then violence if the husband still feels fear about the wives rebellion.
Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.
Impersonation is treason.