(October 14, 2018 at 11:09 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Uplift = opposite of degrade.
I believe in defining what men are with respect women, God would say, they are to uplift them (ie. the opposite of degrading them).
The translations including ["beat them" (lightly)] shows over all the people and Muslims included couldn't digest this message.
Even in a verse in which men with regard to women are being emphasized, they make the worse of it... instead of trying to see the verse in the most positive sense in can be seen. They follow instead what Satan cast regarding it, what his minions propagate about it, and are immersed in believing in the sorcery as opposed to the clear bright signs of God's book.
Still not getting it.
Treating females like property is not elevating them to being equal.
In antiquity the idea of "being kind" to females wasn't about equality as human beings. In antiquity being kind to females was more like not touching an expensive vase or waxing your expensive BMW. It isn't the same type of value of equality. It was value of property.