(October 14, 2018 at 12:10 pm)wyzas Wrote:(October 14, 2018 at 10:39 am)Brian37 Wrote: I wish humans in general worldwide would stop using this "you did this" bullshit.
Yes America HAS done very horrible things in the past. Slavery was horrible, denying women the right to vote was horrible. Genocide of Native Americans was horrible. Black lynchings was horrible. Putting Japanese American citizens in prison camps was horrible. Invading Iraq when Saudi Arabia provided the 19 hijackers was flat out bat shit insane.
No America is not perfect by any stretch. But that does not mean every individual American always agrees with what it's government does.
Just like I don't blame Atlass for what the Saudi Royals do. I don't blame every Jew in Israel for what Bibi does.
But sorry, when you compare the OPPORTUNITY in the west in more open societies to CORRECT mistakes, say verses closed states like North Korea or Saudi Arabia, there is no debate to be had. In those states their populations have far less of a chance of standing up to their rulers than say those in Europe and Canada and America.
I fucking hate Trump so please do not lump me in with that asshole.
But they don't want to throw rocks at their own glass houses. It's easier to put the blame elsewhere.
Hey Brian, don't look now but you got a big bug up your butt.
Yes I do and?
I love my species POTENTIAL for compassion and empathy, and I have run into humans online worldwide who convey that, and read about such humans in our species history. People like Ann Frank and Martin Luther King Jr and Malala are humans we need more of.
But why should I apologize for telling religious individuals to fuck off when they promote violence, oppression and bigotry?
And what would make you think I agree with all atheists all the time just because I blaspheme religion? I have never liked Atheist Ayn Rand and her economic "fuck you I got mine" view.
I HATE that Myanmar's Buddhists are oppressing Muslims. I hate that Sunnis and Shiites kill each other. I hate that Bibi has made Palestine a prison. I hate that Protestants and Catholics in Ireland still to this day have an uneasy truce. I hate that Trump voting evangelicals are only a few election cycles away from turning America into a theocracy.
I don't hate my fellow humans POTENTIAL for non violence and compassion. My fellow humans are QUITE CAPABLE of it when we want to be. I do hate that not enough humans see that religion is a horrible way to conduct political diplomacy, even between the sub sects of the same umbrella labels.
What should matter to humans, are not the differences in our tribal clubs, but in that we are not a separate species.
I am not hard on religion because I think there will be a utopia godless world. I am hard on religion because it should not be the priority of our species outside human rights. It should matter more that we solve world problems such as poverty and pollution and worker stability worldwide.
For all the good religious people claim their respective labels do, it causes more problems than it solves.
Yes I do have a "bug" up my ass because I know my fellow humans are far better than our bullshit tribalism.