(October 14, 2018 at 10:39 am)Brian37 Wrote:(October 14, 2018 at 10:21 am)wyzas Wrote: The US has had blood in it's hand for years and with many presidents. While sad and disturbing, the Saudi/Trump actions are not a special case.
I wish humans in general worldwide would stop using this "you did this" bullshit.
Yes America HAS done very horrible things in the past. Slavery was horrible, denying women the right to vote was horrible. Genocide of Native Americans was horrible. Black lynchings was horrible. Putting Japanese American citizens in prison camps was horrible. Invading Iraq when Saudi Arabia provided the 19 hijackers was flat out bat shit insane.
No America is not perfect by any stretch. But that does not mean every individual American always agrees with what it's government does.
Just like I don't blame Atlass for what the Saudi Royals do. I don't blame every Jew in Israel for what Bibi does.
But sorry, when you compare the OPPORTUNITY in the west in more open societies to CORRECT mistakes, say verses closed states like North Korea or Saudi Arabia, there is no debate to be had. In those states their populations have far less of a chance of standing up to their rulers than say those in Europe and Canada and America.
I fucking hate Trump so please do not lump me in with that asshole.
Actually as a Muslim and a Middle Eastern Arab; I can say loud and clear that this region has the evilest, most twisted humans on earth.
It's a place where rights evaporate, literally, and maybe Jamal's murder might show westerners what Arabs live everyday. That's why nobody revolts: everybody is scared.
The opportunity westerners have is one of the reasons I bet on; that my effort when writing these topics would not be in vain, that somebody would read it and move.
