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IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help?
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RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help?
Dragonfly, consider this:

The God of the Bible is supposed to be omniscient (he knows everything).

If that is true, he KNEW at the moment he created you what your ultimate fate is. Why would he deliberately create a being he KNOWS is bound for Hell?

This is the kind of thing Christian's don't like to think about because there is no rational answer. In the Christian universe, God has ultimate culpability. It's all on him.

Did you ask to be created the way you are? Did you ask to be created at all? You are powerless in the fantasy Christian universe. God created you as you are. Even if he gave you free-will, his omniscience means he KNEW what you would do with that free-will even as he created you! He is culpable for everything you do!

It's as if I am an engineer and I build a car with a wooden dowel to connect the steering wheel with the steering mechanism. My knowledge as an engineer means I KNOW that the wooden dowel lacks sufficient strength. I KNOW that it will fail. If somebody drives that car and kills somebody, it's MY fault because I designed it KNOWING it wasn't safe!

That's the situation with God and Hell. How can you or I, mere creations of an all-powerful, all-knowing being be culpable for our actions when he designed us - knowing exactly what we do before he even created us?!

Understand this and Hell becomes an obvious fantasy, totally devoid of fear. This is the freedom of atheism. Allow your reason to expose the fear of Hell for the scam that it is. Ask yourself, "Does it make any sense?"
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.

Albert Einstein
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IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Dragonfly - October 13, 2018 at 3:29 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by AFTT47 - October 13, 2018 at 3:52 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Alan V - October 13, 2018 at 5:52 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Alan V - October 14, 2018 at 7:23 am
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by AFTT47 - October 14, 2018 at 6:34 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Alan V - October 13, 2018 at 7:53 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Dragonfly - November 12, 2018 at 11:29 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Chad32 - October 13, 2018 at 8:21 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Aroura - October 14, 2018 at 3:29 am
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by no one - October 14, 2018 at 3:34 am
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by brewer - October 14, 2018 at 3:37 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by SteveII - October 16, 2018 at 10:50 am
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Bahana - October 16, 2018 at 1:09 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by SteveII - October 19, 2018 at 12:32 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by brewer - October 19, 2018 at 1:35 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by brewer - October 18, 2018 at 7:24 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Silver - October 18, 2018 at 10:49 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by AFTT47 - October 20, 2018 at 2:45 am
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Alan V - October 29, 2018 at 6:37 am
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Alan V - October 29, 2018 at 10:54 am
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by KevinM1 - October 29, 2018 at 11:50 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by KevinM1 - October 31, 2018 at 10:26 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by KevinM1 - November 1, 2018 at 12:59 am
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Silver - November 2, 2018 at 3:41 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Angrboda - November 10, 2018 at 11:06 am
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Angrboda - November 10, 2018 at 12:35 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Astreja - November 10, 2018 at 3:37 am
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Grandizer - November 14, 2018 at 11:41 am
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by KevinM1 - November 15, 2018 at 8:51 am
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by pocaracas - November 16, 2018 at 10:12 am
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Silver - November 16, 2018 at 12:59 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Silver - November 16, 2018 at 1:49 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Jehanne - November 17, 2018 at 12:10 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Jehanne - November 16, 2018 at 10:16 am
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Chicken - November 12, 2018 at 6:20 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Chicken - November 12, 2018 at 7:44 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Chicken - November 12, 2018 at 8:07 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Grandizer - November 12, 2018 at 10:15 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Grandizer - November 12, 2018 at 11:53 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Grandizer - November 13, 2018 at 10:32 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Silver - November 13, 2018 at 1:51 am
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Dragonfly - November 13, 2018 at 12:13 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Angrboda - November 14, 2018 at 11:47 am
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Grandizer - November 14, 2018 at 11:54 am
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Astreja - November 14, 2018 at 12:00 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Astreja - November 14, 2018 at 2:32 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Astreja - November 14, 2018 at 4:06 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Shell B - November 16, 2018 at 2:53 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Shell B - November 16, 2018 at 3:16 pm
RE: IF you deconverted in midlife, can you help? - by Angrboda - November 22, 2018 at 12:10 am

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