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Trump has blood on his hands
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RE: Trump has blood on his hands
(October 22, 2018 at 11:52 am)Khemikal Wrote: Are you concerned that the US doesn't do enough to diminish local/regional hegemonic power?  

Should the US enact punitive measures against the state, the effects of which will fall primarily on citizens of both countries but...to be very specific..much more heavily on the other party?  

If the US does enjoy a relationship with the state that could produce cooperation (or effectively coerce) on a specific issue, would it be prudent to cut the ties of that consequential and binding relationship?  

If the US does not enjoy a relationship with the state that could produce cooperation (or effectively coerce) on a specific issue, is regime change on the table?

Is there some alternative to our current partners?

No. My objection is that it's "doing too much" for the Saudi regime, and proved to sacrifice its own people to support its local allies or to stalk their oil.

In other words; it played the role of the fine mercenary for a long time; and the petrodollar was the paycheck it got from Arab dictators -especially the Sauds-.

Do you want me to count the wars America sacrificed its own marines in to protect Arab dictatorships? protecting the Arabs promised the flowing of oil to supply the petrodollar machine; even if it was estimated by 20% of the global production.

It's very simple in cases like this: the American administration (under Trump) supported a psychopath (MBS) that hacks people with a bonesaw. So stand against him, and the mad fuck will probably order a kill squad to butcher you.

America stood with the monster; and had a long long history of supporting his grandparent; the first "bone saw" of Arabia.
America gave this regime a soul. It gave this regime a spirit inside the USA and in most of the world's capitals.

(October 22, 2018 at 12:33 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Trump Administration Continues To Send Mixed Messages Over Kashoggi Killing (NY Times)

Quote:Mr. Mnuchin, speaking during a stop in Jerusalem, said the economic and strategic relationship between the United States and Saudi Arabia was too important to be derailed by an international uproar over the Saudis’ killing of a dissident journalist.

The billions they paid him will now play their role.
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Trump has blood on his hands - by WinterHold - October 14, 2018 at 6:30 am
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by Brian37 - October 14, 2018 at 8:28 am
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by WinterHold - October 14, 2018 at 9:14 am
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by Brian37 - October 14, 2018 at 9:42 am
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by WinterHold - October 14, 2018 at 2:48 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by onlinebiker - October 14, 2018 at 4:28 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by WinterHold - October 14, 2018 at 4:35 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by onlinebiker - October 14, 2018 at 5:26 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by WinterHold - October 15, 2018 at 10:59 am
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by onlinebiker - October 15, 2018 at 11:31 am
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by WinterHold - October 20, 2018 at 5:52 am
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by onlinebiker - October 14, 2018 at 10:08 am
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by brewer - October 14, 2018 at 10:21 am
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by Brian37 - October 14, 2018 at 10:39 am
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by brewer - October 14, 2018 at 12:10 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by Brian37 - October 14, 2018 at 12:35 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by WinterHold - October 14, 2018 at 3:06 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by CapnAwesome - October 14, 2018 at 11:23 am
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by Minimalist - October 14, 2018 at 12:22 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by skyking - October 14, 2018 at 2:24 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by Minimalist - October 14, 2018 at 2:37 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by skyking - October 14, 2018 at 3:02 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by brewer - October 14, 2018 at 3:26 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by chimp3 - October 14, 2018 at 2:34 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by WinterHold - October 14, 2018 at 3:08 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by Schwa - October 14, 2018 at 3:03 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by Minimalist - October 14, 2018 at 3:06 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by skyking - October 14, 2018 at 3:24 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by Minimalist - October 14, 2018 at 7:03 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by skyking - October 15, 2018 at 10:07 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by GODZILLA - October 17, 2018 at 3:20 am
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by The Grand Nudger - October 17, 2018 at 5:59 am
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by The Grand Nudger - October 20, 2018 at 7:05 am
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by WinterHold - October 20, 2018 at 7:53 am
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by The Grand Nudger - October 20, 2018 at 10:38 am
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by WinterHold - October 22, 2018 at 4:38 am
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by Minimalist - October 20, 2018 at 1:01 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by onlinebiker - October 20, 2018 at 3:55 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by The Grand Nudger - October 22, 2018 at 11:52 am
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by WinterHold - October 22, 2018 at 1:43 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by Angrboda - October 22, 2018 at 12:33 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by Deesse23 - October 22, 2018 at 1:47 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by WinterHold - October 22, 2018 at 2:24 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by Minimalist - October 22, 2018 at 1:55 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by The Grand Nudger - October 22, 2018 at 4:23 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by Angrboda - October 22, 2018 at 4:41 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by The Grand Nudger - October 23, 2018 at 7:37 am
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by WinterHold - November 19, 2018 at 6:07 am
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by Minimalist - November 19, 2018 at 1:25 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by Angrboda - November 20, 2018 at 9:57 am
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by WinterHold - November 21, 2018 at 3:06 am
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by The Grand Nudger - November 19, 2018 at 1:27 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by Minimalist - November 19, 2018 at 1:45 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by The Grand Nudger - November 21, 2018 at 11:45 am
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by Crossless2.0 - November 21, 2018 at 2:13 pm
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by WinterHold - December 13, 2018 at 12:50 am
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by Angrboda - December 13, 2018 at 1:20 am
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by onlinebiker - December 13, 2018 at 1:42 am
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by Belacqua - December 13, 2018 at 2:42 am
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by Maketakunai - December 13, 2018 at 2:55 am
RE: Trump has blood on his hands - by Belacqua - December 13, 2018 at 2:59 am

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