An unhinged mob

[Amarok]

So, you're saying if they are violent, it's then okay to be violent, which is exactly what I said. I said it's NOT okay to be violent first, which is what you initially negated, so I have no idea what you're going on about.

My point is by example 

Let's say the proud boys are going to hold a hate rally and preach violence against minorities and make a ruckus .I'm saying we have the right to disrupt it and beat the snot out of them because there a bunch of bigot thugs . Technically were starting the physical violence even though their preaching threatening and condoning violence and lastly i'm saying you can no more reason with their kind then you can a fanatical cult thus violence is justified