(October 22, 2018 at 1:56 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:(October 22, 2018 at 1:40 pm)Shell B Wrote: So, you're saying if they are violent, it's then okay to be violent, which is exactly what I said. I said it's NOT okay to be violent first, which is what you initially negated, so I have no idea what you're going on about.My point is by example
Let's say the proud boys are going to hold a hate rally and preach violence against minorities and make a ruckus .I'm saying we have the right to disrupt it and beat the snot out of them because there a bunch of bigot thugs . Technically were starting the physical violence even though their preaching threatening and condoning violence and lastly i'm saying you can no more reason with their kind then you can a fanatical cult thus violence is justified
So you have a rally with a bunched of fanatical people, some of whom are armed, and your idea for improving this situation is to attack them?
What is your goal there? To discourage the proud boys? Oh wait, they enjoy violence.
To win over third parties? Again. How does that achieve that? It doesn't and in fact makes people who would never be sympathtic to the proud boys ideas, sympathetic to them.
In addition the proud boys would never get a squeak of media coverage if antifa didn't show up and have all the violence occurred. Now they are in the media cycle, Google searches are way up.
To contain the rukus they are causing? If you think attacking them does that, you haven't thought it out at all.
So what are your goals that attacking them is going to accomplish? I'd really like to know.
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