An unhinged mob

[Amarok]

These days with my current list of miladies nope  . In the past from the 80s to 2016 in protests hell yes  and i still do it if i could .

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No we have Right wing fanatics and Left wing counters . And no your the embarrassment as you hide . Grow the fuck up and realize these fuckers are not playing by your rules and your concept of progress is dead air to them . Think outside the box instead of giving them what they want docility .

You think I hide? I wouldn't hide from either of these mobs of political pussies who are too scared to try and affect real progress. Too scared to do anything other than shout what they think others should be doing while attacking each other verbally or, as you claim about yourself, physically. Just because I'm not a nut-sack swinging little bitch doesn't mean I'm docile. I'm just not so stupid that I think attacking someone who isn't attacking me or someone else physically is going to solve anything.

I'm quite fucking shocked you were so "ermagerd strawman" about my post while you've openly admitted that violence is your solution.

1.Yes i do think you hide .You clearly do hide and think your notions of "progress " are anything other then limp finger waving .I'm sure Gavin and his thugs are trembling .

2.Your to scared to do anything other then sit on your hands and blather on about how "progressive" and "enlightened " you are . When your done maybe look out the window of the ivory tower at the mongols at the gate .

3. And yup you are docile a docile finger waver in your ivory tower while the vikings plunder the country side.

4. No your stupid enough to think your enlightened blather solves anything other then convincing Gavin and his shit heads they have won because you have let them win .

I'm shocked you still push that straw man when i was clear of the conditions of violence which are more then justified 

You go hide in you ivory tower of smug righteousness while the rest of us get our hands dirty .

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Not even actual violence in this debate. Violence as an answer to the perceived threat of violence.

Violence is the answer to the inevitable FACT  of violence if fuckers like the Proud Boys aren't put down

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In a nutshell:

Using violence as an answer to violence is a bad idea.

In a nutshell using violence too stop fascist dick weeds from taking over and fucking everyone over is a good idea.

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1. So we have a bunch of armed fanatics who if they aren't stopped will attack people who are not fighting back .

2. Antifa has won against the proud boys and run them out of neighborhoods they have terrorized and yes they love violence but they would much rather take it out on defenseless people then fight us . 

3.No they would get attention as their founder has become a darling of the extreme right complete with his own show and is attempting to go mainstream 

4.Winning over third parties is not my goal as anyone dumb enough to think the proud boys are sympathetic is someone i want nothing to do with . 

5. We have contained it in street protest after street protest . Yeah they are fighting back but so are we .

You clearly don't understand the  dynamics here

None of that even addressed what I was saying. Nor is it true.

Antifa hasn't run the proud boys out of neighborhoods, they've turned those neighborhoods into chaos and violence that otherwise wouldn't have happened if they hadn't been there.

I'm not talking about winning a fight, I'm talking about overall goals.

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore...oys&geo=US

You see those spikes there? They literally align with fights with antifa. The more stupid pointless street brawls, the more attention they get. It's a direct correlation.

There has never been a proud boys demonstration that wasn't made far worse and more violent by antifa showing up.

So congrats on winning a fight, if that's even true, but if you have goals such as opposing the views of the proud boys and making them less than what they are: total failure in everyway.

I have addressed it all and it's all true 

1.Yes their was violence but they have been run out 

2.The goal is stopping them for fucking everyone over 

3.Actually again nope The proud boys already were spreading because they have both crept into the mainstream and have taken complete advantage of the openness of our society 

4. Your fourth point is false 

So congrats we won a great many fights and have opposed their views and have made them less then what they are : total success .And you a Shell can sit on your fingers running you mouths about "progress" while Gavin thanks you for your contribution.