Subjective Morality?

[The Grand Nudger]

That's a cognitivist response.  A "yes" to the first question of the flowchart.  If asked whether moral judgements reflect beliefs, you think that they do.

No.  I said that I think begging the question is wrong, and that I believed I really thought that (though you asking that question seemed kind of strange, since I don't normally state opinions I don't believe).

Right, and because you think that statement expresses a state of belief on your part, the answer to the question "do moral judgements express beliefs" is yes.  You think that they do.  You think, for example, that your moral judgement "begging the question is wrong" expresses a belief that you hold.  Something that could be true or false, and you are in a state of belief regarding that proposition wherein you take it to be true.

(it does seem strange, doesn't it..but that's a position called conservativism - non cognitivists reject that and state that however strange the question may seem, it's a valid one and the answer is no..because we aren't actually expressing states of belief in moral judgment. To them, a negative moral judgement does not even aim for the truth. They would contend that you don't actually believe that begging the question is wrong..and that the entire statement can be reduced to something like "yuck"..instead, for example.

I've already said that I think a moral system is a mediation among feelings (read: instinct), ideas, and environment.  Is this something that seems wrong to you?

Not at all, no.  As a realist I agree that moral systems often are a mediation between feelings ideas and environments.  However, as a moral realist, I think that they should be less so, and more a series of statements that follow from moral facts. Or, if we were being systematic, that the interests those idiosyncratic metrics takes place at the level of agency or desert rather than the formation of moral propositions.

You believe that moral judgements express beliefs, so you're a cognitivist..and no non-cog criticism of our shared position on that matter is available to you in good faith - as a realist, or advocating for the realist position, my every answer to a non-cog objection will be "then we are both wrong". Even though I'm a realist and you are (presumably - but I'd actually hold off on saying so for certain, lol) not..we are implicated together in our rejection of non cognitivist positions. We agree, on that. The next question in the flow is whether or not you think that those beliefs are sometimes true.

So, do you think that your belief that begging the question is wrong is true? Or..conversely, do you think that (for whatever reason or no reason)..we always get it wrong? That our beliefs in this regard are never true?