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The Historical Christ
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RE: The Historical Christ
If we examine Jesus from a rational and scientific point of view as Giff pointed out, we can make some definite statements about his life as protrayed in the NT.

1) The virgin birth and nativity scene are false, as well as any connection he had to Herod.
2) The resurrection and most likely the crucifixion are also false.
3) Miracles are false.
4) Most likely John the Baptist is also story bound.

When we take away what we know about Jesus to be false with certainity, what do we have left? Could we even call that man Jesus, if he existed?

There are also problems with dismissing Jesus as completely fictional. The main one is now what do we do with a character known as "James, the brother of Jesus?" There are very few people claiming he was fictional too. There is much evidence outside of the Bible to show James existed. How did he get that name?

If Jesus existed, most likely he was from Jerusalem. It would be even possible Dr. Tabor's tomb was his family tomb. In dissecting the works of James, it appears he didn't believe Jesus to be a God.
"On Earth as it is in Heaven, the Cosmic Roots of the Bible" available on the Amazon.
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The Historical Christ - by dagda - April 8, 2009 at 4:35 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Kyuuketsuki - April 8, 2009 at 7:31 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - April 8, 2009 at 10:06 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Kyuuketsuki - April 8, 2009 at 11:51 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Tiberius - April 8, 2009 at 12:54 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - April 8, 2009 at 2:26 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Kyuuketsuki - April 8, 2009 at 4:20 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by LukeMC - April 16, 2009 at 11:34 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by fr0d0 - April 8, 2009 at 5:34 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Tiberius - April 8, 2009 at 10:10 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by fr0d0 - April 9, 2009 at 2:44 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Giff - April 10, 2009 at 7:32 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - April 10, 2009 at 9:32 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by leo-rcc - April 10, 2009 at 9:52 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by lilphil1989 - April 10, 2009 at 9:58 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by leo-rcc - April 10, 2009 at 10:00 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - April 10, 2009 at 3:18 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Tiberius - April 10, 2009 at 6:42 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by padraic - April 10, 2009 at 9:09 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - April 11, 2009 at 9:13 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Giff - April 12, 2009 at 3:18 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Giff - April 17, 2009 at 5:33 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - April 18, 2009 at 9:48 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Giff - April 20, 2009 at 10:47 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by g-mark - April 22, 2009 at 4:38 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Kyuuketsuki - April 22, 2009 at 6:24 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2009 at 10:02 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by padraic - April 22, 2009 at 5:26 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by padraic - April 22, 2009 at 6:46 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - April 27, 2009 at 12:30 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Giff - April 27, 2009 at 1:45 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - April 28, 2009 at 10:22 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Giff - April 28, 2009 at 11:14 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Tiberius - April 28, 2009 at 11:36 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Giff - May 10, 2009 at 11:38 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by LEDO - May 24, 2009 at 9:36 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Samson - May 24, 2009 at 10:57 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Kyuuketsuki - May 25, 2009 at 4:38 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Samson - May 25, 2009 at 1:52 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Edwardo Piet - May 25, 2009 at 1:55 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Samson - May 25, 2009 at 3:42 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Edwardo Piet - May 25, 2009 at 4:09 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by lrh9 - May 25, 2009 at 5:24 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by LEDO - May 25, 2009 at 6:39 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Samson - May 25, 2009 at 6:57 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by lrh9 - May 25, 2009 at 7:52 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - May 26, 2009 at 5:56 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Giff - May 26, 2009 at 8:00 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Kyuuketsuki - May 27, 2009 at 3:23 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - May 26, 2009 at 12:05 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by LEDO - May 26, 2009 at 6:46 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - May 27, 2009 at 8:44 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - May 27, 2009 at 12:50 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by LEDO - May 27, 2009 at 5:39 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - May 27, 2009 at 1:23 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - May 27, 2009 at 5:08 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by padraic - May 27, 2009 at 9:29 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - May 28, 2009 at 11:31 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by LEDO - May 28, 2009 at 7:03 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - May 28, 2009 at 1:26 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Darwinian - May 28, 2009 at 2:29 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - May 28, 2009 at 3:20 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - May 28, 2009 at 3:37 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Kyuuketsuki - May 28, 2009 at 4:03 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - May 29, 2009 at 7:49 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - May 29, 2009 at 10:27 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - May 29, 2009 at 1:26 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - May 29, 2009 at 2:15 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - May 30, 2009 at 10:15 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Kyuuketsuki - May 30, 2009 at 5:33 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by LEDO - May 30, 2009 at 9:13 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Eilonnwy - May 30, 2009 at 7:05 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - June 1, 2009 at 10:35 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - June 2, 2009 at 12:24 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Kyuuketsuki - June 2, 2009 at 3:01 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by LEDO - June 6, 2009 at 7:28 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by padraic - June 2, 2009 at 9:05 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by moleque - June 3, 2009 at 4:08 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - June 3, 2009 at 9:59 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - June 3, 2009 at 2:07 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - June 8, 2009 at 11:26 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Anto Kennedy - July 13, 2009 at 8:19 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - July 14, 2009 at 3:07 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Minimalist - August 3, 2009 at 1:49 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Minimalist - August 3, 2009 at 2:37 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - August 3, 2009 at 3:02 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Minimalist - August 3, 2009 at 8:15 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - August 4, 2009 at 12:45 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Minimalist - August 4, 2009 at 12:51 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Kyuuketsuki - August 4, 2009 at 3:57 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Minimalist - August 4, 2009 at 8:52 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Kyuuketsuki - August 5, 2009 at 5:42 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Anto Kennedy - August 4, 2009 at 1:24 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - August 4, 2009 at 1:33 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Minimalist - August 4, 2009 at 1:38 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - August 5, 2009 at 8:23 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Anto Kennedy - August 4, 2009 at 2:04 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Minimalist - August 4, 2009 at 2:59 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - August 4, 2009 at 4:23 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Anto Kennedy - August 5, 2009 at 7:17 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Kyuuketsuki - August 5, 2009 at 7:49 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - August 5, 2009 at 10:34 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Minimalist - August 5, 2009 at 11:57 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - August 5, 2009 at 12:11 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Minimalist - August 5, 2009 at 4:59 pm

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