Subjective Morality?

[The Grand Nudger]

Even if we concede that moral facts actually refer to people's opinions and judgements (rather than some mind independent property of x) - not all moral assessments are created equal.  Hilariously, we think that..because we don't think that the plant watering guy is on-point with the relationship between his predicate and properties of x accurately identified.

How many times are you going to say "we think" in attempting to demonstrate that morality is objective?

The above wasn't a demonstration of moral realism, it even began with the assumption of subjectivism.  

You've trotted out a list of things that people generally consider immoral.  That, I would contend, is because they are people, and there's a lot of overlap among people in their feelings and ideas about things.  You haven't considered the moral positions of bats or Volgons.

The moral positions of bats or volgons would be objective or subjective or other for the same reasons.  

If a computer decided that X should be done (given some goal) and Y should not be done, would you call that a moral position?  I wouldn't.  This is because the computer doesn't have feelings about things-- it cannot be offended, or angered, or frightened.

Moral statements don't have feelings either, nevertheless, they could be true or false like any other such statement - none of which have feelings - according to any form of cognitivist..which includes subjectivism and realism.   

My position is super simple.  Mores are a mediation among feelings, ideas, and environmental factors, but they exist only as ideas.  Fortunately, there's a word for that.

There are alot of words for positions that can make that claim.  Realism is among them.

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I wonder why people confuse objectivity with being robotic, computerized, without emotion.

: shrugs :  

Because it's something that a computer could do, I guess?  Or maybe because they think that only a (robotic, emotionless) computer could..that our emotions and feelings fundamentally prevent us from being able to describe something objectively.