(October 29, 2018 at 6:37 am)Thoreauvian Wrote:(October 28, 2018 at 2:35 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Faith is trusting proofs and your awareness of higher truth, over the conjecture of the tree of envy, and seeing the truth with power of love and resolve.
1) Real proofs don't require faith and trust, just understanding. That's the whole point of having a proof.
This is true, but just like the Shia-Sunni dispute which has clear proofs in favor of Shiism, clear proofs are not enough, because of a sinister dark magic that causes people to reject clear proofs. The same is true with clear proofs regarding God in my view.
Anyways, I don't know if the above is preaching or not, so I will stop at that, what makes faith and love go together is mainly the power of dark magic and Demons and sorcerers who wish to instil irrational doubts. Were it not for them, I would agree, it would be so simple and proofs would be apparent.
This is the last time I will discuss this issue. I've made my case and LadyForCamus is right in that if I'm not going to defend the arguments, there is no point, in preaching regarding them.
Good luck everyone, but I won't be trying to knock any more sense to people faith wise.