RE: Saudi journalist killed and hacked inside Saudi embassy in Istanbul
October 30, 2018 at 11:14 pm
(This post was last modified: October 30, 2018 at 11:21 pm by WinterHold.)
(October 30, 2018 at 5:41 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Who used to hide it? The despots? Not well enough (obviously, look at this amateur hour cover-up). The people who call despots despots? That doesn't make any sense at all.
What you'll have to confront, eventually, is that the people at the center of your theory of everything that's wrong with the middle east have long pointed these things out and sought (at least some) of the changes you seek. It is local support which perpetuates this state of affairs. You think that "the people" have been subdued...but history and current events have shown us that "the people" are onboard with this, provided that the despot is their despot.
Would you, for example..like I, wish that the ksa was rearranged as a secular western democracy (like canadia, for example)? Do you think that "the people" want that, or just us?
The Sauds, they used to hide their brutality and only do foul crimes like this to the domestic grounds, or in other parts of Arabia.
But taking it to Europe, and butcher a journalist inside a consulate in a NATO country -and lying to the world officially- is the new thing. This is new, the kingdom was "not touched" in the media.
Many spoke about other hellish things which weren't exposed publicly yet -though I'm sure mostly all governments know it but didn't tell this citizens because the interest is too big with KSA-, but the stories include torture -very extreme to the degree of dying or get a permanent disability-, assassination, stalking and spying -there are whole buildings for that job and it was exposed to the media; it's not fantasy, and more.
I would always support one idea: everybody have the right to live this life without compulsion. But to answer your last question: no. I think the Middle East is not one, and the people are cut between different factions. Too much pride over countries and flags that they didn't even make.
Canada is not building a wall or hacking journalists; so that's that.
(October 30, 2018 at 7:11 pm)Macoleco Wrote: The fact the Saudi Arabia doesnt even have to hide the brutality of its theocracy in a globalized world, and still keep its political power in the international community, is scary
The secular law doesn't put the possibility of a mad person (literally a psychopath) like MBS controlling a big economy, it didn't expect Hitler, or Stalin, and now it didn't expect characters like Kim of Korea and MBS in SA. Sanctions must be more serious, and a new backup is presented in the cases of psychopaths ruling over big economies.
It's scary beyond limit.
